The amount of Truth in this is daunting. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:40 PM, der.hans wrote: > Am 22. Jul, 2015 schwätzte Nathan England so: > > moin moin, > > The company I currently work for has 3 developer position openings and in >> 4 months we've had only two candidates apply. That seems to me a real need >> for developers. Either that or the job description is too complicated for >> them to get past. >> > > ( None of this is pointing at any specific person or company, it just > seems like the best place in the thread to mention it. ) > > There's an open secret about tech unemployment, it's been really low for > years, even when general unemployment was really high. > > Due to this apparently being a secret, we get job descriptions that list > every technology someone can cut and paste from Internet search results. > > But, since tech unemployment is actually low, it's hard to find candidates. > > In tech we're also usually looking for specialists. Do welding companies > ask for someone expert in one particular welder? Are there dozens of > brands of welders to choose from such that skills ( from the viewpoint of > HR ) don't transfer to another brand of welder? Sorry, you only know java > welders... > > So, we have a lack of candidates because people have jobs and don't > need to look around and also because job descriptions are searching for > unrealistic lists of skills while simultaneously focusing on narrow > fields. > > Then, when candidates do appear, many get overlooked due to the narrow > field view or lack of buzzwork bingo on their resumes. The habitually > unemployed or new to the field seem are really up against heavy odds, even > in the low unemployment state we've been in for years. > > Even an expert will have a learning curve to learn how your environment > does it. The example I like to give is that if you hire Larry Wall to join > your Perl team ( or Guido von Rossum for Python or Rasmus Lerdorf for > PHP... ), he will need time to learn how your team works. Granted, if he > then makes suggestions your team should probably listen intently :). > > For entry and junior level positions, look for candidates that are good at > technology and learning, then give them room to grow into the specific > position. You need that anyway because your environment *is* different. > > For senior positions, find those who know the field, then see if you think > they can become the expert you need. The most likely reason we're looking > is to do something new :). > > Also, please cross-train so when someone does leave the rest of the team > isn't left with huge gaps in knowledge and experience! > > ciao, > > der.hans > > Nathan >> >> On 2015-07-22 10:45, Keith Smith wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I posted for an entry level LAMP developer a week or so ago figuring I >>> would find a number of people wanting to break into LAMP development. >>> What I received was a lackluster response. I was offering $22/hr 1099 >>> with the potential to bill 40 hours a week. I figured by the time >>> that person pays for health insurance figured at $250/mo, pays he self >>> employment tax, and takes some vacation time and holiday time off, >>> this compensation would be about $18 an hour W2 or $36,000 a year. >>> >>> Here is the contract description: >>> >>> I am looking for an entry level LAMP developer. Would like someone >>> with entry level PHP skills and entry level Linux skills. Stuff like >>> the ability to add a user, add a sudo user, and configure vhosts on >>> apache. I will give directions with examples and they will be working >>> on a development VPS so if they blow it we just spin up another. As >>> for PHP skills if this person knows how to write a MySql connection >>> string and is able to insert, update, delete and list.... this person >>> could be what I am looking for. This is a maintenance job. This >>> person would need to know some HTML and CSS. jQuery would be a plus. >>> >>> This contract could last as long as 2 or 3 years. At that point we >>> would need to either up the compensation or understand when this >>> person takes off for other opportunities. >>> >>> Is the compensation fair? Any ideas why I received such a lukewarm >>> response? >>> >>> >>> Your feedback is much appreciated. >>> >>> Keith >>> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> > -- > # http://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.PhxLinux.org/ > # Don't step in front of speeding cars, don't eat explosives > # and don't use m$ LookOut :). - der.hans > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen