If I was still in the Phoenixarea I would be most happy too. Unfortunately I am moving out of state even in July. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Keith Smith wrote: > On 2015-05-21 22:32, Eric Oyen wrote: > >> hmmm. thats not a bad idea. It might also be helpful to the disabled >> population (of which I am one, being totally blind). Since I use >> ubuntu with the orca screen reader here on an old toshiba laptop that >> was graciously donated to me by another member of plug over 7 years >> ago, it has been used a lot. Mostly, I use it to control the various >> pieces of ham radio gear I have (using the HamLib package) It also >> makes radio programming a bit easier when I have to use chirp (Linux >> is about the only environment where that program is even minimally >> accessible using a screen reader). btw, there is also an accessibility >> list over at Ubuntu where the various screen readers and how to use >> them are discussed. There is also the Vinux project which was >> specifically designed for blind computer users. >> >> > Very interesting. > > > Combine this with a community outreach program (say for big >> brothers/big sisters or the YMCA or the United way) and you might just >> start a whole new generation of Linux users (and programmers) who >> won't have to put up with the failing business model that is >> Microsoft. >> >> > > Several members of the Tucson Free Unix Group converted a school to Linux > about 15 years ago using used computers donated by one or more local > businesses. > > I worked in a business 17 years ago that had 650 employees. Think about > that. Over a 3 or 4 year period they would replace every one of those > computers. Those used computers still have many years of life in them and > by replacing M$ with Linux the old computer has a new life. My experience > is Linux needs less resources and old iron will perform decently especially > if it is only 3 - 4 - 5 years old. I have an 8 year old box that would do > fine running Mint. And I suspect it could do so for 5 or more years. > > I think the real issue is finding the volunteers to do all this work. > > > -eric (the other eric :) ). >> >> On May 21, 2015, at 4:31 PM, Michael Havens wrote: >> >> You know, thrift stores (other than goodwill) has used computers coming >>> out of their ears. I think we need to find a thrift store that wants to >>> unload all of this used hardware for like 25 dollars apiece and put Linux >>> on it and get these fully functional and modern computers out to the people >>> who need them. If you buy a modern windows computer it isn't even fully >>> functional unless you pay for a subscription to something. I'm partial to >>> Linux Mint but that is up for debate. >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > -- > Keith Smith > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >