funny thing.... the python on my system is already python3 :-)~MIKE~(-: On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Todd Millecam wrote: > No, you should not worry about it. > > My entire career, doing full-out conversions from python 2 to python 3 > I've run into only two problems. > > 1) In python 3, you need to output stuff via a print() as opposed to a > print "" in python 2 > 2) python 3 defaults all character encodings to unicode, whereas python 2 > needed a unicode string specified with a u'' > by python 3.4, they made it so the u'' syntax is ignored and just made > into a string. > > Often, to get python3, it's a package named python3 > > Also, everything I've seen from the head-first series is basically just > fluff where the authors care more about hearing themselves talk than they > do about covering the subject matter. > > Honestly, getting ipython/bpython installed and just tab-completing > everything and using the built-in documentation is as good as any textbook, > but starting out that way is kinda difficult. > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > >> I do have a concern though; the programs are written in Python3. In 'The >> Hard Way' the author is very adament about NOT using Python3. Should I >> worry about that? How would I go about installing Python3 with apt-get? >> 2.7.6 is what is installed on my system now. >> >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> >> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Michael Havens wrote: >> >>> yea James. thanks. I wish they had a free version but i suppose $50 >>> isn't bad for a text book? >>> >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:21 PM, James Dugger >>> wrote: >>> >>>> If you are new to programming look at >>>> "Head First Programming: A learner 's guide to programming using the >>>> Python language" by David Griffiths and Paul Barry. >>>> >>>> The Head First books take a different approach to learning. I gave >>>> this book to my 10 year old son who used it to learn programming and Python. >>>> On Apr 5, 2015 12:24 PM, "Michael Havens" wrote: >>>> >>>>> No problem. I am doing it (badly) "... the hard way." >>>>> >>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:21 PM, James Mcphee >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> sorry for not responding sooner, michael. everyone learns in their >>>>>> own way. if a course is not for you, I can at least point you at how I >>>>>> pick up new languages. what works for me is the old "scratch an itch" >>>>>> process. find something that you want to do, and do it with a language. >>>>>> start small, maybe checking your email or twitter. it's a matter of >>>>>> getting some inertia behind you. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Michael Havens >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Please expand. How would you recommend I go about to learn this (not >>>>>>> in a formal setting)? I can not afford to take classes and because of a >>>>>>> head injury doubt I could complete it successfully anyways. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In your list I notice you do not mention learning any programming >>>>>>> language. Why is that? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you mean by "OS shell integration"? Is that saying I need >>>>>>> to learn BASH as opposed to Python? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "string operations must mean BASH.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> when you say "regular expressions" is this a good resource here >>>>>>> ? >>>>>>> Would I use this with BASH or Python or both? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I notice that in http://learnpythonthehardway.org/ there is a >>>>>>> section that covers using Python with websites so handling and forming >>>>>>> automated web requests is probably covered in more advanced Python >>>>>>> tutorials. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So to sum it up I think I need to learn Python and BASH. Is this >>>>>>> correct? I also need to learn XML, JSON (what do you mean when you say >>>>>>> "from xml.dom import minidom ; import json") and SQL >>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For all the pen testing and hacker stuff I went through (7 some odd >>>>>>> years ago), here's what you'll want to know how to do, in approximate order >>>>>>> of priority: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> xml and json parsing (from xml.dom import minidom ; import json) >>>>>>> connecting to and using a database (learn enough SQL to be able to >>>>>>> navigate around one here too), learning sqlalchemy will be enough to land >>>>>>> you a job in the field >>>>>>> OS shell integration (import os) >>>>>>> string operations >>>>>>> regular expressions (import re) >>>>>>> handling and forming automated web requests >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> James McPhee >>>>>> jmcphe@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > Todd Millecam > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >