No, you should not worry about it. My entire career, doing full-out conversions from python 2 to python 3 I've run into only two problems. 1) In python 3, you need to output stuff via a print() as opposed to a print "" in python 2 2) python 3 defaults all character encodings to unicode, whereas python 2 needed a unicode string specified with a u'' by python 3.4, they made it so the u'' syntax is ignored and just made into a string. Often, to get python3, it's a package named python3 Also, everything I've seen from the head-first series is basically just fluff where the authors care more about hearing themselves talk than they do about covering the subject matter. Honestly, getting ipython/bpython installed and just tab-completing everything and using the built-in documentation is as good as any textbook, but starting out that way is kinda difficult. On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > I do have a concern though; the programs are written in Python3. In 'The > Hard Way' the author is very adament about NOT using Python3. Should I > worry about that? How would I go about installing Python3 with apt-get? > 2.7.6 is what is installed on my system now. > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > >> yea James. thanks. I wish they had a free version but i suppose $50 isn't >> bad for a text book? >> >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> >> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:21 PM, James Dugger >> wrote: >> >>> If you are new to programming look at >>> "Head First Programming: A learner 's guide to programming using the >>> Python language" by David Griffiths and Paul Barry. >>> >>> The Head First books take a different approach to learning. I gave this >>> book to my 10 year old son who used it to learn programming and Python. >>> On Apr 5, 2015 12:24 PM, "Michael Havens" wrote: >>> >>>> No problem. I am doing it (badly) "... the hard way." >>>> >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:21 PM, James Mcphee wrote: >>>> >>>>> sorry for not responding sooner, michael. everyone learns in their >>>>> own way. if a course is not for you, I can at least point you at how I >>>>> pick up new languages. what works for me is the old "scratch an itch" >>>>> process. find something that you want to do, and do it with a language. >>>>> start small, maybe checking your email or twitter. it's a matter of >>>>> getting some inertia behind you. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Michael Havens >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Please expand. How would you recommend I go about to learn this (not >>>>>> in a formal setting)? I can not afford to take classes and because of a >>>>>> head injury doubt I could complete it successfully anyways. >>>>>> >>>>>> In your list I notice you do not mention learning any programming >>>>>> language. Why is that? >>>>>> >>>>>> What do you mean by "OS shell integration"? Is that saying I need to >>>>>> learn BASH as opposed to Python? >>>>>> >>>>>> "string operations must mean BASH.... >>>>>> >>>>>> when you say "regular expressions" is this a good resource here >>>>>> ? >>>>>> Would I use this with BASH or Python or both? >>>>>> >>>>>> I notice that in http://learnpythonthehardway.org/ there is a >>>>>> section that covers using Python with websites so handling and forming >>>>>> automated web requests is probably covered in more advanced Python >>>>>> tutorials. >>>>>> >>>>>> So to sum it up I think I need to learn Python and BASH. Is this >>>>>> correct? I also need to learn XML, JSON (what do you mean when you say >>>>>> "from xml.dom import minidom ; import json") and SQL >>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> >>>>>> For all the pen testing and hacker stuff I went through (7 some odd >>>>>> years ago), here's what you'll want to know how to do, in approximate order >>>>>> of priority: >>>>>> >>>>>> xml and json parsing (from xml.dom import minidom ; import json) >>>>>> connecting to and using a database (learn enough SQL to be able to >>>>>> navigate around one here too), learning sqlalchemy will be enough to land >>>>>> you a job in the field >>>>>> OS shell integration (import os) >>>>>> string operations >>>>>> regular expressions (import re) >>>>>> handling and forming automated web requests >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> James McPhee >>>>> jmcphe@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Todd Millecam