To better clarify, when you get to functions, function calls, libraries/modules, and classes or objects in python,and have an understanding of SQL you'll be in a position to learn sqlalchemy. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > cool.... my igorance just oozes! No? > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:28 PM, James Mcphee wrote: > >> it's a library of python >> >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Michael Havens wrote: >> >>> so how well do I need to know python to learn sqlachemy? or else can I >>> learn it independently? >>> >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Todd Millecam >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Naw, but I took a telecommute job and am looking to move down there in >>>> November now. >>>> >>>> For all the pen testing and hacker stuff I went through (7 some odd >>>> years ago), here's what you'll want to know how to do, in approximate order >>>> of priority: >>>> >>>> xml and json parsing (from xml.dom import minidom ; import json) >>>> connecting to and using a database (learn enough SQL to be able to >>>> navigate around one here too), learning sqlalchemy will be enough to land >>>> you a job in the field >>>> OS shell integration (import os) >>>> string operations >>>> regular expressions (import re) >>>> handling and forming automated web requests >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Michael Havens >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes... the pen-testing stuff I was talking about earlier. I am just so >>>>> flighty I don't know what to do. I think I will learn Python as I think >>>>> that will be good for the easy stuff to the advanced stuff.... I'll worry >>>>> about the expert stuff if I ever get that far. >>>>> Are you in Phoenix yet> >>>>> >>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Todd Millecam >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, python has basically become a wrapper for C now, so there's a >>>>>> lot of different uses for it. What are you learning it for? Job? That >>>>>> pen-testing stuff you were doing earlier? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Michael Havens >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Found a good reference. >>>>>>> http://docs.python-guide.org/en/latest/intro/learning/ >>>>>>> It gives many books of varying levels. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Todd Millecam >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Learning Python, published by O'Reilly has a picture of a mouse on >>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>> If you're more familiar with programming, Dive into python is the >>>>>>>> gold standard. >>>>>>>> If you're looking for the more "popular" way of programming, >>>>>>>> there's Introduction to Computing and Programming in Python published by >>>>>>>> Pearson--but that uses Jython, which should be avoided at all costs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I also have a power-point presentation meant for the absolute >>>>>>>> newbie that you can find on my site: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://tyggna.com/downloads/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Michael Havens >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can you recommend a good book for the absolute beginner? (besides >>>>>>>>> saying to google it) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Todd Millecam >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Todd Millecam >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Todd Millecam >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> James McPhee >> jmcphe@gmail.com >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Todd Millecam