thanks.....

:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 1:09 AM, Patrick Callahan <patrick.pxc.c@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yeah. Unstable means just means little or no testing downstream from the
> maintainers of the software packaged. Software found in Debian unstable is
> generally not beta software, but considered a 'stable' release upstream.
> On Jan 4, 2015 1:06 AM, "Michael Havens" <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> is this the correct understanding  apt-get's stable/testing/unstable?
>> If I'm wrong could you teach me?
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 12:27 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is it correct that with apt-get unstable refers to the amount of testing
>>> done with the system? I do not think it refers the alfa/beta status of the
>>> program.
>>>
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> to the mint forums I go! Thanks for your help Mark. I'll post what I
>>>> find out there after I hear back from them.
>>>>
>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Mark Phillips <
>>>> mark@phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 3, 2015 11:14 AM, "Michael Havens" <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > so then, <version> is just for lower than the version that are in
>>>>> the apt-cache.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, the version you want has to be in your sources.list.
>>>>>
>>>>> glad I'm talking to you all about this because I just discovered that
>>>>> after you run <package>=<version> you need to run :
>>>>> >
>>>>> > sudo echo “package hold” | sudo dpkg –set-selections
>>>>>
>>>>> Only if you don't want the package upgraded at the next apt-get
>>>>> upgrade.
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I also discovered that to find the versions in the repository you
>>>>>  run:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > apt-cache showpkg packagename
>>>>> >
>>>>> > so is there no way to force a version into apt-cache?
>>>>>
>>>>> The sources.list just says where to find a package. Sort of like a big
>>>>> phone book...if you don't have the white pages for Ajo, you can't find your
>>>>> friend's phone number who lives in Ajo. Once you get the Ajo book, you have
>>>>> access to everyone's phone number in Ajo, but you are only interested in
>>>>> your friend's number.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pinning tells apt to only use the 2011 edition of the Ajo phone book
>>>>> to look up your friend's phone number, even though you now subscribe to the
>>>>> latest version of the Ajo phone book. You still have all the latest phone
>>>>> numbers on hand, which does not impact your selection of the 2011 phone
>>>>> number for your friend's phone number.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just tried to force the installation of the unstable version of the
>>>>> package (sudo apt-get install kmymoney/unstable) but it seems as if it
>>>>> isn't called 'unstable' in mint (ubuntu). Am I doing it wrong? What are the
>>>>> Archives called in Mint (ubuntu)
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, I have never used mint. Just a long time Debian user who
>>>>> recently switched to Ubuntu for my desktop with my new laptop...It came
>>>>> pre-installed. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> help immensely. Thank you Mark.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Mark Phillips <
>>>>> mark@phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Michael,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> If all you have is the stable branch in your sources.list, then
>>>>> you won't have access to any of the testing packages, even if you specify
>>>>> testing on the command line with apt-get. apt-get has to know where to find
>>>>> the package you want to download, which is why sources.list exists. If you
>>>>> want to be able to install both testing and stable packages, then you have
>>>>> to have both stable and testing branches listed in your sources.list.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> If you want to hold a package to a specific version or branch
>>>>> (stable, testing, experimental), then you can "pin" that package to that
>>>>> version, and all future updates will only use that version. Take a look at
>>>>> http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html. However, you still
>>>>> have to have the correct repositories listed in sources.list, and you have
>>>>> to run an apt-get upgrade to update the local cache so the OS knows where
>>>>> to find the packages you want.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Hope that helps!
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Mark
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:02 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> A specific version of a package can be selected for installation
>>>>> by
>>>>> >>>> following the package name with an equals (=) and the version of
>>>>> the package to select. This will cause that version to be located and
>>>>> selected for install. Alternatively, a specific distribution can be
>>>>> selected by following the package name with a slash (/) and the version of
>>>>> the distribution or the Archive name (i.e. stable, testing, unstable).
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> source: http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> So this is saying to me you don't need the PPA to install the
>>>>> latest version but can instead do:
>>>>> >>>> <package>=<version>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> If that is so we don't need to add PPAs to our systems. IN other
>>>>> words PPAs are just a way to make it so that we are always running the
>>>>> latest version of the package regardless of if it works whereas we choose
>>>>> what we want to run with:
>>>>> >>>> <package>=<version>
>>>>> >>>> That is very Linuxy of them!
>>>>> >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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