Yeah. Unstable means just means little or no testing downstream from the
maintainers of the software packaged. Software found in Debian unstable is
generally not beta software, but considered a 'stable' release upstream.
On Jan 4, 2015 1:06 AM, "Michael Havens" <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:

> is this the correct understanding  apt-get's stable/testing/unstable?
> If I'm wrong could you teach me?
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 12:27 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is it correct that with apt-get unstable refers to the amount of testing
>> done with the system? I do not think it refers the alfa/beta status of the
>> program.
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> to the mint forums I go! Thanks for your help Mark. I'll post what I
>>> find out there after I hear back from them.
>>>
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Mark Phillips <
>>> mark@phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 3, 2015 11:14 AM, "Michael Havens" <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > so then, <version> is just for lower than the version that are in the
>>>> apt-cache.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, the version you want has to be in your sources.list.
>>>>
>>>> glad I'm talking to you all about this because I just discovered that
>>>> after you run <package>=<version> you need to run :
>>>> >
>>>> > sudo echo “package hold” | sudo dpkg –set-selections
>>>>
>>>> Only if you don't want the package upgraded at the next apt-get upgrade.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > I also discovered that to find the versions in the repository you
>>>>  run:
>>>> >
>>>> > apt-cache showpkg packagename
>>>> >
>>>> > so is there no way to force a version into apt-cache?
>>>>
>>>> The sources.list just says where to find a package. Sort of like a big
>>>> phone book...if you don't have the white pages for Ajo, you can't find your
>>>> friend's phone number who lives in Ajo. Once you get the Ajo book, you have
>>>> access to everyone's phone number in Ajo, but you are only interested in
>>>> your friend's number.
>>>>
>>>> Pinning tells apt to only use the 2011 edition of the Ajo phone book to
>>>> look up your friend's phone number, even though you now subscribe to the
>>>> latest version of the Ajo phone book. You still have all the latest phone
>>>> numbers on hand, which does not impact your selection of the 2011 phone
>>>> number for your friend's phone number.
>>>>
>>>> I just tried to force the installation of the unstable version of the
>>>> package (sudo apt-get install kmymoney/unstable) but it seems as if it
>>>> isn't called 'unstable' in mint (ubuntu). Am I doing it wrong? What are the
>>>> Archives called in Mint (ubuntu)
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, I have never used mint. Just a long time Debian user who
>>>> recently switched to Ubuntu for my desktop with my new laptop...It came
>>>> pre-installed. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> help immensely. Thank you Mark.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Mark Phillips <
>>>> mark@phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Michael,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> If all you have is the stable branch in your sources.list, then you
>>>> won't have access to any of the testing packages, even if you specify
>>>> testing on the command line with apt-get. apt-get has to know where to find
>>>> the package you want to download, which is why sources.list exists. If you
>>>> want to be able to install both testing and stable packages, then you have
>>>> to have both stable and testing branches listed in your sources.list.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> If you want to hold a package to a specific version or branch
>>>> (stable, testing, experimental), then you can "pin" that package to that
>>>> version, and all future updates will only use that version. Take a look at
>>>> http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html. However, you still have
>>>> to have the correct repositories listed in sources.list, and you have to
>>>> run an apt-get upgrade to update the local cache so the OS knows where to
>>>> find the packages you want.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Hope that helps!
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Mark
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:02 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> A specific version of a package can be selected for installation by
>>>> >>>> following the package name with an equals (=) and the version of
>>>> the package to select. This will cause that version to be located and
>>>> selected for install. Alternatively, a specific distribution can be
>>>> selected by following the package name with a slash (/) and the version of
>>>> the distribution or the Archive name (i.e. stable, testing, unstable).
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> source: http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> So this is saying to me you don't need the PPA to install the
>>>> latest version but can instead do:
>>>> >>>> <package>=<version>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> If that is so we don't need to add PPAs to our systems. IN other
>>>> words PPAs are just a way to make it so that we are always running the
>>>> latest version of the package regardless of if it works whereas we choose
>>>> what we want to run with:
>>>> >>>> <package>=<version>
>>>> >>>> That is very Linuxy of them!
>>>> >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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