is this the correct understanding apt-get's stable/testing/unstable? If I'm wrong could you teach me? :-)~MIKE~(-: On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 12:27 AM, Michael Havens wrote: > Is it correct that with apt-get unstable refers to the amount of testing > done with the system? I do not think it refers the alfa/beta status of the > program. > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > >> to the mint forums I go! Thanks for your help Mark. I'll post what I find >> out there after I hear back from them. >> >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> >> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Mark Phillips < >> mark@phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Jan 3, 2015 11:14 AM, "Michael Havens" wrote: >>> > >>> > so then, is just for lower than the version that are in the >>> apt-cache. >>> >>> Actually, the version you want has to be in your sources.list. >>> >>> glad I'm talking to you all about this because I just discovered that >>> after you run = you need to run : >>> > >>> > sudo echo “package hold” | sudo dpkg –set-selections >>> >>> Only if you don't want the package upgraded at the next apt-get upgrade. >>> >>> > >>> > I also discovered that to find the versions in the repository you run: >>> > >>> > apt-cache showpkg packagename >>> > >>> > so is there no way to force a version into apt-cache? >>> >>> The sources.list just says where to find a package. Sort of like a big >>> phone book...if you don't have the white pages for Ajo, you can't find your >>> friend's phone number who lives in Ajo. Once you get the Ajo book, you have >>> access to everyone's phone number in Ajo, but you are only interested in >>> your friend's number. >>> >>> Pinning tells apt to only use the 2011 edition of the Ajo phone book to >>> look up your friend's phone number, even though you now subscribe to the >>> latest version of the Ajo phone book. You still have all the latest phone >>> numbers on hand, which does not impact your selection of the 2011 phone >>> number for your friend's phone number. >>> >>> I just tried to force the installation of the unstable version of the >>> package (sudo apt-get install kmymoney/unstable) but it seems as if it >>> isn't called 'unstable' in mint (ubuntu). Am I doing it wrong? What are the >>> Archives called in Mint (ubuntu) >>> >>> Sorry, I have never used mint. Just a long time Debian user who recently >>> switched to Ubuntu for my desktop with my new laptop...It came >>> pre-installed. ;-) >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> > >>> > :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> > >>> > On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Michael Havens >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> help immensely. Thank you Mark. >>> >> >>> >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> >> >>> >> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Mark Phillips < >>> mark@phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Michael, >>> >>> >>> >>> If all you have is the stable branch in your sources.list, then you >>> won't have access to any of the testing packages, even if you specify >>> testing on the command line with apt-get. apt-get has to know where to find >>> the package you want to download, which is why sources.list exists. If you >>> want to be able to install both testing and stable packages, then you have >>> to have both stable and testing branches listed in your sources.list. >>> >>> >>> >>> If you want to hold a package to a specific version or branch >>> (stable, testing, experimental), then you can "pin" that package to that >>> version, and all future updates will only use that version. Take a look at >>> http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html. However, you still have >>> to have the correct repositories listed in sources.list, and you have to >>> run an apt-get upgrade to update the local cache so the OS knows where to >>> find the packages you want. >>> >>> >>> >>> Hope that helps! >>> >>> >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:02 AM, Michael Havens >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> A specific version of a package can be selected for installation by >>> >>>> following the package name with an equals (=) and the version of >>> the package to select. This will cause that version to be located and >>> selected for install. Alternatively, a specific distribution can be >>> selected by following the package name with a slash (/) and the version of >>> the distribution or the Archive name (i.e. stable, testing, unstable). >>> >>>> >>> >>>> source: http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> So this is saying to me you don't need the PPA to install the >>> latest version but can instead do: >>> >>>> = >>> >>>> >>> >>>> If that is so we don't need to add PPAs to our systems. IN other >>> words PPAs are just a way to make it so that we are always running the >>> latest version of the package regardless of if it works whereas we choose >>> what we want to run with: >>> >>>> = >>> >>>> That is very Linuxy of them! >>> >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > --------------------------------------------------- >>> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >