bmike1@c521 ~ $ ls -l ~
total 64
drwxr-xr-x  2 bmike1 bmike1  4096 Dec 18 20:15 Desktop
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in the above ls output what do the third and fourt fields represent?
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oh yeah. 'owner' and 'group'! is it in that order?
:-)~MIKE~(-: