Well, I could mention all the trouble I am having with gEDA gatting gschem to connect the pins together on a hierarchical design with a top sheet and 3 copies of a repeating sub circuit. I finally had to upgrade my 10.04 through 12.04 to 14.04 to get schm2pcb to stop generating a syntax error internally and then deleting the file with the error before I could look at it and figure a way around the bug. But I still have trouble with power connections not becoming named nets and attaching to chips with hidden power pins. And lots of error messages about pins that start with letters instead of numbers. And PCB not finding all the footprints. I don't seem to be configuring it to search the right folders for the custom foot prints. But at least PCB now actually gets some footprints and about half the rat lines! That is a huge improvement over what I was getting for weeks before doing the upgrade. I also tried just loading and compiling the latest versions of gschem, schm2pcb and pcb and compiling them to run on 10.04, but there we so MANY dependencies, and I got stuck trying to get all the dependencies for guile to work. That was when I gave up and upgraded Ubuntu. Of course now I hate the desktop and program management! Mike -- "Creativity is intelligence having fun." — Albert Einstein