I have Hitachis that are 2 years old running in raid 10 (MD) with no issues. An other array have had 1 WD black go bad. I have one array that I mixed drive brands (each 1.TB) w 1 Seagate Barracuda in the array (raid 10). The Seagate always falls out of sync due to virtual blocking. I'm trying WD reds next. On Oct 19, 2014 8:51 PM, "George Toft" wrote: > Credible - hmmm - all I have is the vendor's assertion the drives were new > from Seagate. Times two vendors. > > For you WD fans out there - I just had 4 WD Enterprise drives fail on me > in the past month (out of 18 in two arrays). They were all dated Nov 2010 > - that should give you an indication how long they last under 24x7x365 use > in a data center. > > Regards, > > George Toft > > On 10/17/2014 8:43 AM, techlists@phpcoderusa.com wrote: > >> >> If you have credible evidence that Seagate is selling used Hitachi drives >> as new and under their label I'm sure your State Attorney General would >> like to hear from you. >> >> >> >> >> On 2014-10-17 10:08, George Toft wrote: >> >>> How many [thousand] hours on the drive? I think you're gambling if >>> you have more than 26,000 hours (3 years) and ESPECIALLY if it's >>> really a Hitachi drive. Seagate bought Hitachi recently, and from >>> what I've seen, are selling used Hitachi drives as "new" Seagate >>> drives - check the model number and the run hours! >>> >>> Hard drives are killing me this year - I've spent over 80 hours in >>> rework because of failed drives - especially with Seatachi drives (see >>> above). 80 hours of rework at no pay is a painful lesson. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> George Toft >>> >>> On 9/11/2014 4:06 PM, parabellum7@yahoo.com wrote: >>> >>>> Greetings! >>>> >>>> >>>> I have a 500GB Seagate ST3500312CS SATA drive salvaged from a >>>> decommissioned DVR. The DVR's OS said SMART status OK. The latest Seatools >>>> disk utility from the Seagate website says the drive is A-OK (short test, >>>> long test, full erase, re-test) no errors found. >>>> >>>> However, the Gnome disk utility in Mint 17 says 'Threshold not >>>> exceeded' and 'Disk is OK, 178 bad sectors'. >>>> >>>> Some other SMART attributes displayed: >>>> >>>> ID1 Read Error Rate: 152141757 >>>> ID5 Reallocated Sector Count: 178 sectors >>>> ID187 Reported Uncorrectable Errors: 0 sectors >>>> ID198 Uncorrectable Sector Count: 0 sectors >>>> ID199 UDMA CRC Error Rate: 0 >>>> >>>> >>>> GSmart Control 0.8.7 is reading the same thing, 178 sectors, but also >>>> says it's OK. >>>> >>>> running an e2fsck from gparted reports 0 bad blocks. >>>> >>>> I've also retested in another machine with different cables to minimize >>>> the possibility of bogus hardware or BIOS issues, but the results remain >>>> the same. >>>> >>>> Seagate's website has a FAQ that says their tools should be the final >>>> say as they're designed to work correctly with their drives. >>>> >>>> Normally a bad sector or two wouldn't bother me, I have drives that >>>> have been running for years like that. I just keep backups fresh and check >>>> for bad sector growth. A few bad sectors is within spec and that's why >>>> HDD's have a reserved area. Yet somehow 178 sectors seems like a lot. >>>> >>>> Should I trust this drive for anything more than a paperweight? >>>> >>>> Should I trust anything with the words 'smart', 'affordable', or 'free' >>>> in the name? ;] >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> --Kenn >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >