okay.... I got it going the way I want I unplugged everything from the back of the router and then connected the computer connected to that computer and it connected! I then connected internet to the WAN port and I got internet! Thanks for talking me through this guys. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:24 AM, coverturtle wrote: > Michael, > Here's what to do: > Disconnect all network cables from the router that you want to connect to > and then > run an ethernet cable with the RJ-45 connectors (should be a good cable!) > from a LAN port to the computer. > If you don't get an IP address from the DHCP on the router, then pull the > power cable on the router, > leave the router off for about 30 seconds and then plug the power back in > and wait for the router > lights to come on indicating that the router is fully booted. If you have > DHCP set on your computer, > you should be able to connect to the router. I don't know the brand of > router you are using but it's > probably using an address of 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1. If you get a > DHCP address on your computer, > you will be able to tell the address of the router unless it starts with > 169.xxxxx which means that > there is not a connection. If you get a 169.xxxx address, then reboot the > computer and check again. > > Once you have a DCHP address, then the address to type in the browser is > the same as your DHCP address > EXCEPT the last number should be 1 (one): xxx.xxx.xxx.1 - like so. > This should give you a connection > UNLESS this is SECOND router and it has taken it's address from the first > router. In that case, make sure > you have disconnected the WAN cable from the second router and reboot it > by power cycling. No need to > factory reset the router if you know the password. It should connect OK. > When connected, make sure you > find the menu item that allows you to set the router up as a repeater or a > bridge. If you set it up as a > bridge, then the xxx.xxx.xxx.1 address will be for router number one. > The second router will have a DHCP > address assigned by the first router. You will need to access the first > router in order to determine > the DHCP address of router. > > Here's the gotcha: for security reasons router manufacturers program the > firmware to initialize routers only > with physical ethernet/network cable connected to a single computer. So > if you have trouble with the router, > you need to isolate it from the network and use only a single computer > (and maybe a WAN/internete connection). > > It's rather tedious for both of us to type back and forth because I don't > know exactly what you are doing or how > your network (LAN) is connected so let me know if you want to use a skype > connection. My Skype name is > jonkettenhofen BUT I have blocked all but friends so you will need to let > me know what your skype name is. > Allowing me to see your setup will make setup go faster, easier and I'll > be able to help you clear up your > understanding of your home network (hopefully!) It's up to you. > > Hope that helps some, > Jon > > '' > > > I got a problem. I'm trying to update it but can't get into the > configuration page (192.168.1.1). I tried resetting the device (I depressed > the reset button for 65 seconds) but to no avail. Any ideas? > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Michael Butash > wrote: > >> Vlan isolation, inside and outside for simplest of terms. Vlan 1 is >> inside, Vlan 2 is outside. By nature, one cannot reach another, thus >> Virtual LAN's. >> >> In the middle sits a bridge, and iptables mangles packets between them. >> This is your nat, firewall, application inspection, etc. >> >> A process on the wan grabs a dhcp address, adds it outside, and a default >> route to the upstream dslam or cmts. It also registers it as the external >> address to nat your internal traffic as to the world, effectively hiding >> your internal routable subnets. >> >> The inside vlan uses a private address, usually 192.168.1.1/24 by >> default. This gives you 253 usable address, and gives out a subset of >> that via dhcp. When clients come up wired or wireless, they get an >> address from the dhcp server when they broadcast for an address. >> >> Routers usually bridge the wireless 802.11 radio(s) to this vlan as well, >> bringing them all into the 192.168.1.0/24 subnet on that vlan. The >> DHCP server gives wired or wireless clients a local 192.168.1.0/24 >> address out of the subset it hands out, including the gateway for the >> subnet (itself, 192.168.1.1), and dns servers for it, again itself. >> >> They get a local dns server that is usually dnsmasq running on the >> router, caching and forwarding to the upstream provider dns servers given >> externally to the router when it gets its WAN address. It forwards your >> requests on mostly. >> >> Wireless does some form of security, hopefully, letting client onto the >> ssid with a pre-share key or some other. No wpa1, only wpa2+aes. Tkip >> is exploitable, so is wps pin registration (easily crackable without >> mitigation routines). >> >> Most routers these days use dd-wrt, or some variant, usually some oem >> abomination hack of linux. Your wrt54g is like the granddaddy of dd-wrt >> routers, see what generation it is and see if it's upgradable. Probably >> doing yourself a favor upgrading the 10yr old firmware to something secure >> anyways, keeping some foreign entity from redirecting your dns for bank >> servers to snatch your credentials. >> >> Clear as mud? Google lots of those words. >> >> -mb >> >> >> >> On 10/19/2014 12:31 AM, Michael Havens wrote: >> >> so the port I'm wondering about is an input port then. I thought I read >> that it is also a wan part. How does that work? Like I know the internet >> is a wan but how does it work in this case? >> >> >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:27 PM, koder wrote: >> >>> Mike, >>> >>> I have the same device in my networking system. My answer may not be >>> 100% correct, but here is my SWAG: >>> >>> The device was designed to serve as a router with DHCP server >>> capabilities, in other words it hands out IP addresses to requests that >>> come from one of the output ports. >>> >>> You can access the device using its web page and turn that feature off, >>> it then acts as a bridge router and the DHCP functioning will come from >>> further upsteam, from your other router. >>> >>> The network will not function correctly if you have two different >>> devices trying to pass out IP addresses using DHCP. Everything pretty much >>> quits talking to each other. >>> >>> While I have never tried using the device by plugging everything only >>> into the output ports, I am guessing that connection setup would use the >>> device as a bare dumb switch. No more double DHCP, only happy connectivity. >>> >>> I am reasonably sure my explanation is not technically correct, but is >>> functional. I was quite loose with input, output, upstream, and >>> downstream analogies, but that is the way I think of them. >>> >>> By the way on a separate item, it is my understanding that most of these >>> devices are hacked and infected and should be either upgraded, or replaced. >>> I have yet to do either, but I think that is the case. >>> >>> HM >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/17/2014 03:08 PM, Michael Havens wrote: >>> >>> That is the router I have. On the back there are 4 LAN ports and >>> another port labled Internet. My setup had the cable from the modem feeding >>> into that port and everything worked until a couple of days ago. Today I >>> switched that cable to a LAN port and everything worked again. I asked in >>> another thread the purpose of the internet port and MR Butash gave me an >>> answer but it is still a lot hazy. In my research to answer the question >>> myself I found a wikipedia article that states: >>> >>> The original *WRT54G* was first released in December 2002. It has a >>> 4+1 port network switch  (the >>> Internet/WAN port is part of the same internal network switch, but on a >>> different VLAN ). >>> >>> My questions: What is that port for if not to be an input port for the >>> internet >>> and >>> Why was it working as an input port for the internet and why did it stop >>> working as such? >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >