Dell currently uses allot of seagate drives. I have generally been a huge fan of Western Digital. they have always been very reliable for me and have doe very well for longevity in both server and desktop applications. I personally have had issues with seagate drives longevity, however their hybrid drives have been getting a very different reaction. so i decided to try one in my kids computer. On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Keith Smith wrote: > Sorry to hear Seagate is not as good as Hitachi. As I recall, there was a > discussion on this list about who was the best and I think Hitachi took a > lot of hits. I think Dell puts Seagate drives in their boxes. > > What manufacture makes the best today? > > > > > On 2014-10-17 22:05, Brian Cluff wrote: > >> Seagate has been cranking out such bad drives lately, I think I would >> rather have a used hitachi than a new seagate. >> >> Brian Cluff >> >> On 10/17/2014 08:43 AM, techlists@phpcoderusa.com wrote: >> >>> >>> If you have credible evidence that Seagate is selling used Hitachi >>> drives as new and under their label I'm sure your State Attorney General >>> would like to hear from you. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2014-10-17 10:08, George Toft wrote: >>> >>>> How many [thousand] hours on the drive? I think you're gambling if >>>> you have more than 26,000 hours (3 years) and ESPECIALLY if it's >>>> really a Hitachi drive. Seagate bought Hitachi recently, and from >>>> what I've seen, are selling used Hitachi drives as "new" Seagate >>>> drives - check the model number and the run hours! >>>> >>>> Hard drives are killing me this year - I've spent over 80 hours in >>>> rework because of failed drives - especially with Seatachi drives (see >>>> above). 80 hours of rework at no pay is a painful lesson. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> George Toft >>>> >>>> On 9/11/2014 4:06 PM, parabellum7@yahoo.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Greetings! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have a 500GB Seagate ST3500312CS SATA drive salvaged from a >>>>> decommissioned DVR. The DVR's OS said SMART status OK. The latest >>>>> Seatools disk utility from the Seagate website says the drive is A-OK >>>>> (short test, long test, full erase, re-test) no errors found. >>>>> >>>>> However, the Gnome disk utility in Mint 17 says 'Threshold not >>>>> exceeded' and 'Disk is OK, 178 bad sectors'. >>>>> >>>>> Some other SMART attributes displayed: >>>>> >>>>> ID1 Read Error Rate: 152141757 >>>>> ID5 Reallocated Sector Count: 178 sectors >>>>> ID187 Reported Uncorrectable Errors: 0 sectors >>>>> ID198 Uncorrectable Sector Count: 0 sectors >>>>> ID199 UDMA CRC Error Rate: 0 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> GSmart Control 0.8.7 is reading the same thing, 178 sectors, but also >>>>> says it's OK. >>>>> >>>>> running an e2fsck from gparted reports 0 bad blocks. >>>>> >>>>> I've also retested in another machine with different cables to >>>>> minimize the possibility of bogus hardware or BIOS issues, but the >>>>> results remain the same. >>>>> >>>>> Seagate's website has a FAQ that says their tools should be the final >>>>> say as they're designed to work correctly with their drives. >>>>> >>>>> Normally a bad sector or two wouldn't bother me, I have drives that >>>>> have been running for years like that. I just keep backups fresh and >>>>> check for bad sector growth. A few bad sectors is within spec and >>>>> that's why HDD's have a reserved area. Yet somehow 178 sectors seems >>>>> like a lot. >>>>> >>>>> Should I trust this drive for anything more than a paperweight? >>>>> >>>>> Should I trust anything with the words 'smart', 'affordable', or >>>>> 'free' in the name? ;] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --Kenn >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > -- > Keith Smith > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen