Turning off uefi will turn off secure boot also. But secure boot is your actual problem. Kevin On Jul 19, 2014 10:26 AM, wrote: > > And maybe it was some confusion on my part. I did have to turn off the > UEFI? with On my Dell when I installed Linux on it. > > > On 2014-07-19 10:21, Kevin Fries wrote: > >> UEFI is not the problem. As a matter of fact, it probably helps the >> Linux enthusiasts break the Microsoft Monopoly better than anything I >> have seen in a long time. >> >> UEFI is designed such that there is one one boot secror. Instead, it >> had 128 boot records and that number can be extended infinitely. >> The standard was also opened years ago... it was designed by Intel. >> >> Microsoft not one to have their illegal monopoly threatened, came up >> with another scheme to lock out open operating systems... >> security-related OS >> http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-evaluated_operating_system >> [2]. In this scheme, the vendor would only allow these secured, >> certified operating systems to be installed. You had a choice >> initially of one... Windows, but you had only the choice of that one >> on the list. >> >> Just remember, you may recognize many names on that list, but they are >> all paid operating systems. Because the cost of this certification >> is expensive. That's why you find Enterprise Red Hat, but not >> Fedora. >> >> Well, the real joke is, most machines sold with Windows 8 have this >> Bios feature turned on, but there is an option in the Bios to turn it >> off. When you are no longer limiter to certified OSes, you can >> install whatever you like. >> >> Now if HE were only as worried about making their customers happy as >> they were making Microsoft happy, they would have told you that. >> >> Kevin >> On Jul 18, 2014 10:42 PM, wrote: >> >> On 2014-07-18 19:49, Jerry Snitselaar wrote: >>> On Fri Jul 18 14, techlists@phpcoderusa.com wrote: >>> On 2014-07-18 14:19, Bob Holtzman wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 11:52:05AM -0700, >>>> >>> techlists@phpcoderusa.com wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> From my experience Dell is Linux friendly. I'd double check if it >>>>> will run Linux though. I think the new HP's will not. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Reason? >>>> >>> >>> I think it has something to do with the bios. I have a 4.5 year >>> old HP >>> laptop that runs Linux, however it is my understanding the new ones >>> will >>> not. >>> >>> Are you talking about uefi? That shouldn't be a problem. >>> >> >> I do not recall. It has been about a year. I was going to buy an HP >> laptop and either someone on the list told me it would not run Linux >> or HP told me so. I did not buy the laptop. >> >> >>>>>> Last year when I bought a new Dell workstation. After telling >>>>>> >>>>> them I >>>> >>>>> >>>>> ..........huge snip.......... >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] >>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] >>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] >>> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss [1] >> >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> [2] http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-evaluated_operating_system >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss