problem.... there is no LAN port on either router. both have 4 ethernet
ports and one has 1 internet port, and the other (the modem) a phone port
and a line port.

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. <
mailing-lists@phoenixinternet.net> wrote:

>  What you can do is disable DHCP on the second router (The one not
> connected to your ISP). Then connect the LAN port of the second router to
> the LAN on the First router. It is important that you have the DHCP service
> disabled on the second router! Do not use the Internet/WAN port of the
> second router.
>
> Gilbert
>
>
> On 7/18/2014 2:51 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
> is there a way turn NAT off in the second router?
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> you are correct. that is what I've done and what is going on. I don't
>> have a switch.... only the other router. I'm mad at myself..... I had a
>> switch but got rid of it before I moved to FL.
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. <
>> mailing-lists@phoenixinternet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> What I think you are doing is using NAT between your 2 networks. Below
>>> is my approximation of your system patched together from your comments...
>>> 1. You have the router that is connected to your ISP. It is performing
>>> NAT and handing out a private network to anything on its LAN and WIFI
>>> interfaces.
>>> 2. You have a second router that has its Internet/WAN interface
>>> connected to one of the LAN interfaces on the first router. It is also
>>> performing NAT and handing out a second private network on its LAN and WIFI
>>> interfaces.
>>>
>>> You WOULD be able to connect via SSH from a device connected to the
>>> router listed in point 2 to a device connected to the router listed in
>>> point 1. You WOULD NOT be able to connect from the device connected to the
>>> router listed in point 2 FROM a device connected to the router listed in
>>> point 1 due to NAT.
>>>
>>> There are ways to get beyond this and only have one network utilizing 2
>>> SOHO routers. I would always recommend for anyone who has limited network
>>> experience to only use one router and use a combination of switches and
>>> access points to extend wired LANs and provide better WIFI coverage. If the
>>> setup is how I described, you may have other issues due to DOUBLE NAT that
>>> you just have not recognized yet.
>>>
>>> Gilbert
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/18/2014 12:30 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>>>
>>>> telnet localhost 22 from the server received no answer from the client
>>>> telnet 192.168.1.101 22 from the client received no answer from the
>>>> server
>>>>
>>>> I'll get back to you about the research project
>>>>  (and as a private message)
>>>>
>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>
>>>>
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