Different devices, different errors based on existence and state. > dmesg --- plug in the stick > dmesg -- what do you see, it should show something if the logic board on stick is good. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > I was wondering, I still have that flash drive that died and wanted to see > if I could resrrect it: > Well, to save you from having to wade trough text for 3 of the 8 commands > the response was 'no medium found' as opposed to 'no such file or > directory'.Then I thought perhaps I needed to partition it; for > /dev/sdb-/dev/sdd the response was 'no medium found' and then /dev/sde said > 'no such file or directory'. Why did the returns give me to different > responses? > > sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdc1 > mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) > /dev/sdc1: No such file or directory > > sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdd1 > mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) > /dev/sdd1: No such file or directory > > sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sde1 > mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) > /dev/sde1: No such file or directory > > sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb1 > mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) > /dev/sdb1: No such file or directory > > sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb > mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) > /dev/sdb: No medium found > > sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdc > mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) > /dev/sdc: No medium found > > sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdd > mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) > /dev/sdd: No medium found > > sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sde > mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) > /dev/sde: No such file or directory > > sudo fdisk /dev/sdd > fdisk: unable to open /dev/sdd: No medium found > > sudo fdisk /dev/sdc > fdisk: unable to open /dev/sdc: No medium found > > sudo fdisk /dev/sdb > fdisk: unable to open /dev/sdb: No medium found > > sudo fdisk /dev/sde > fdisk: unable to open /dev/sde: No such file or directory > > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Mike Ballon wrote: > >> no sweat, glad we nailed it down. >> >> >> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Michael Havens wrote: >> >>> then mkfs -t vfat then dosfslabel >>> >>> thanks for your help.... couldn't of done it w/o you! >>> >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Michael Havens wrote: >>> >>>> distro is Mint14. I tried it in a Mint12 and mX14 (if you have old >>>> hardware mX14 is the operating system for you) with the same problem. fixed >>>> it! I unplugged all the other USB drives then made guesses about what the >>>> USB port was named (/dev/sdd1, /dev/sdc1... etc) >>>> >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Mike Ballon wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sounds like something went wrong with the part or file system setup. >>>>> Try it in another computer if you have one, if not just try setting up the >>>>> usb again. >>>>> >>>>> What distro btw? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Michael Havens wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> hmmmmm... I just noticed. When I plug the drive in an icon appears in >>>>>> caja representing the drive if it is in the 'computer' mode. When I open >>>>>> the icon an info window appears stating that the computer can't mount the >>>>>> file. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is the drive dead or just in a coma awaiting someone to awaken it >>>>>> with a kiss? >>>>>> >>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Michael Havens wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> i'm not sure how old it is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Michael Havens wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$ blkid >>>>>>>> /dev/sda1: UUID="cc83628a-2b28-40b4-8f02-c8a818ef55e9" TYPE="ext4" >>>>>>>> /dev/sda5: UUID="31eb4a2e-cf07-47d8-9f0a-2b12795b32fc" TYPE="swap" >>>>>>>> /dev/sda6: UUID="0653ee3e-f753-42a3-a6b6-dc2948cb8859" TYPE="ext4" >>>>>>>> /dev/sda7: LABEL="entertainment" >>>>>>>> UUID="9be45b98-d619-4a31-a951-5dd63fab9775" TYPE="ext4" >>>>>>>> /dev/sda8: SEC_TYPE="msdos" UUID="F3E7-6D4B" TYPE="vfat" >>>>>>>> /dev/sda9: LABEL="backtrack" >>>>>>>> UUID="b75029ca-b18f-4310-8800-916ef23ea3cf" TYPE="ext4" >>>>>>>> ***** >>>>>>>> Nope, it doesn't see it. That is the second thumb drive that died >>>>>>>> this year. the first one was only a few months old whereas this one is a >>>>>>>> few years old. Is there any way to tell how old it is? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 4:54 PM, James Dugger < >>>>>>>> james.dugger@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Try >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> $ blkid >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If Linux is seeing the drive as a device it should return a UUID >>>>>>>>> and a device assignment for it. >>>>>>>>> On May 6, 2014 2:46 PM, "Michael Havens" wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> unplugging it was the first thing I tried. Then I tried to fix it >>>>>>>>>> with a reboot (that fixed things for me before when dealing with things. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Michael Havens wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$ /etc/init.d/autofs status >>>>>>>>>>> bash: /etc/init.d/autofs: No such file or directory >>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$ >>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$ ps |grep automount >>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Mike Ballon < >>>>>>>>>>> mike.ballon@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> unplug/plug, it should automount, if not check: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> $ /etc/init.d/autofs status >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> automount (pid 1442) is running... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Michael Havens < >>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it isn't automounting. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Michael Havens < >>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> got it all to work.... even changed the label name. What >>>>>>>>>>>>>> messed me up was: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > 1 (press enter 3times) -- again maybe you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't need the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't understand at first that was part of the 'n' command. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo fdisk >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): o >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0x3e8c35b3. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write >>>>>>>>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> After that, of course, the previous content won't be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> recoverable. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> corrected by w(rite) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): n >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Partition type: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> p primary (0 primary, 0 extended, 4 free) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> e extended >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Select (default p): p >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Partition number (1-4, default 1): >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using default value 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> First sector (2048-3913663, default 2048): >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using default value 2048 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G} (2048-3913663, default >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3913663): >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using default value 3913663 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): t >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Selected partition 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hex code (type L to list codes): ntfs >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hex code (type L to list codes): >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hex code (type L to list codes): l >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0 Empty 24 NEC DOS 81 Minix / old Lin >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bf Solaris >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 FAT12 27 Hidden NTFS Win 82 Linux swap / So >>>>>>>>>>>>>> c1 DRDOS/sec (FAT- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 XENIX root 39 Plan 9 83 Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>>> c4 DRDOS/sec (FAT- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 XENIX usr 3c PartitionMagic 84 OS/2 hidden C: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> c6 DRDOS/sec (FAT- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4 FAT16 <32M 40 Venix 80286 85 Linux extended >>>>>>>>>>>>>> c7 Syrinx >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 Extended 41 PPC PReP Boot 86 NTFS volume set >>>>>>>>>>>>>> da Non-FS data >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6 FAT16 42 SFS 87 NTFS volume set >>>>>>>>>>>>>> db CP/M / CTOS / . >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT 4d QNX4.x 88 Linux plaintext >>>>>>>>>>>>>> de Dell Utility >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 AIX 4e QNX4.x 2nd part 8e Linux LVM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> df BootIt >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9 AIX bootable 4f QNX4.x 3rd part 93 Amoeba >>>>>>>>>>>>>> e1 DOS access >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a OS/2 Boot Manag 50 OnTrack DM 94 Amoeba BBT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> e3 DOS R/O >>>>>>>>>>>>>> b W95 FAT32 51 OnTrack DM6 Aux 9f BSD/OS >>>>>>>>>>>>>> e4 SpeedStor >>>>>>>>>>>>>> c W95 FAT32 (LBA) 52 CP/M a0 IBM Thinkpad hi >>>>>>>>>>>>>> eb BeOS fs >>>>>>>>>>>>>> e W95 FAT16 (LBA) 53 OnTrack DM6 Aux a5 FreeBSD >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ee GPT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> f W95 Ext'd (LBA) 54 OnTrackDM6 a6 OpenBSD >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ef EFI (FAT-12/16/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 OPUS 55 EZ-Drive a7 NeXTSTEP >>>>>>>>>>>>>> f0 Linux/PA-RISC b >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Hidden FAT12 56 Golden Bow a8 Darwin UFS >>>>>>>>>>>>>> f1 SpeedStor >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12 Compaq diagnost 5c Priam Edisk a9 NetBSD >>>>>>>>>>>>>> f4 SpeedStor >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 Hidden FAT16 <3 61 SpeedStor ab Darwin boot >>>>>>>>>>>>>> f2 DOS secondary >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16 Hidden FAT16 63 GNU HURD or Sys af HFS / HFS+ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fb VMware VMFS >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 17 Hidden HPFS/NTF 64 Novell Netware b7 BSDI fs >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fc VMware VMKCORE >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18 AST SmartSleep 65 Novell Netware b8 BSDI swap >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fd Linux raid auto >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1b Hidden W95 FAT3 70 DiskSecure Mult bb Boot Wizard hid >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fe LANstep >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1c Hidden W95 FAT3 75 PC/IX be Solaris boot >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ff BBT >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1e Hidden W95 FAT1 80 Old Minix >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hex code (type L to list codes): 86 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Changed system type of partition 1 to 86 (NTFS volume set) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): b >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no *BSD partition on /dev/sdd. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): p >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disk /dev/sdd: 2003 MB, 2003795968 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 heads, 4 sectors/track, 88946 cylinders, total 3913664 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sectors >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disk identifier: 0x3e8c35b3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1 2048 3913663 1955808 86 NTFS >>>>>>>>>>>>>> volume set >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): w >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The partition table has been altered! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Syncing disks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Mike Ballon < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mike.ballon@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After the 1 is t, 1 might have been selected for you by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start over... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> fdisk /dev/sdd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > o (create new table) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > n (create part, 1 would be the default, maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't need the 1) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > 1 (press enter 3times) -- again maybe you don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > t (select fs type) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > b (selects fat for fs) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > p (print the table) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > w (write the changes) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't make me do a video I don't have time ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Michael Havens < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay.... I think I really screwed things up. YOu said: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> fdisk /dev/sdb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > o >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > n >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > 1 (press enter 3times) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > b >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > w >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > p >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ***The above didn't look like that. There was no '$>' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I figured your computer was just configured differently >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I carried on! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo fdisk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): o >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0xf66cb38c. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> write them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After that, of course, the previous content won't be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recoverable. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corrected by w(rite) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): n >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Partition type: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> p primary (0 primary, 0 extended, 4 free) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e extended >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Select (default p): p >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Partition number (1-4, default 1): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using default value 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First sector (2048-3913663, default 2048): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using default value 2048 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G} (2048-3913663, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default 3913663): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using default value 3913663 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1: unknown command >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command action >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a toggle a bootable flag >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b edit bsd disklabel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> c toggle the dos compatibility flag >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d delete a partition >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> l list known partition types >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m print this menu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n add a new partition >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o create a new empty DOS partition table >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> p print the partition table >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> q quit without saving changes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s create a new empty Sun disklabel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> t change a partition's system id >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u change display/entry units >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v verify the partition table >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> w write table to disk and exit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> x extra functionality (experts only) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Selected partition 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hex code (type L to list codes): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hex code (type L to list codes): w >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hex code (type L to list codes): ^[^[ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hex code (type L to list codes): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hex code (type L to list codes): ^Cbmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo fdisk /dev/sdd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): o >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0xbdd16f92. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> write them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After that, of course, the previous content won't be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recoverable. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corrected by w(rite) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): n >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Partition type: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> p primary (0 primary, 0 extended, 4 free) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e extended >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Select (default p): b >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Invalid partition type `b' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): n >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Partition type: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> p primary (0 primary, 0 extended, 4 free) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e extended >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Select (default p): p >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Partition number (1-4, default 1): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using default value 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First sector (2048-3913663, default 2048): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using default value 2048 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G} (2048-3913663, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default 3913663): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using default value 3913663 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): b >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no *BSD partition on /dev/sdd. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): w >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The partition table has been altered! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Syncing disks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo fdisk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): p >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disk /dev/sdd: 2003 MB, 2003795968 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 heads, 4 sectors/track, 88946 cylinders, total 3913664 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sectors >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disk identifier: 0xbdd16f92 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> System >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1 2048 3913663 1955808 83 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): ^[[B^[[A^[ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [: unknown command >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command action >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a toggle a bootable flag >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b edit bsd disklabel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> c toggle the dos compatibility flag >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d delete a partition >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> l list known partition types >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m print this menu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n add a new partition >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o create a new empty DOS partition table >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> p print the partition table >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> q quit without saving changes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s create a new empty Sun disklabel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> t change a partition's system id >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u change display/entry units >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v verify the partition table >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> w write table to disk and exit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> x extra functionality (experts only) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command (m for help): q >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disk /dev/sdd1: 2001 MB, 2001731584 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 62 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1017 cylinders, total 3909632 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sectors >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disk identifier: 0x20ac7dda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This doesn't look like a partition table >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably you selected the wrong device. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> System >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1p1 ? 3224498923 3657370039 216435558+ 7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HPFS/NTFS/exFAT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1p2 ? 3272020941 930513678 976730017 16 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hidden FAT16 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1p3 ? 0 0 0 6f >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unknown >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1p4 50200576 974536369 462167897 0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Empty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Partition table entries are not in disk order >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****Now when I plug the USB drive in and it automounts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing new appears in the file manager. SO I ran another program to see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what it says: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo sfdisk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checking that no-one is using this disk right now ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disk /dev/sdd: 1018 cylinders, 62 heads, 62 sectors/track >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Old situation: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning: The partition table looks like it was made >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for C/H/S=*/11/4 (instead of 1018/62/62). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For this listing I'll assume that geometry. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Units = cylinders of 22528 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> counting from 0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Device Boot Start End #cyls #blocks Id System >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1 46+ 88946- 88901- 1955808 83 Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start: (c,h,s) expected (46,6,1) found (1,78,9) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end: (c,h,s) expected (1023,10,4) found (34,10,4) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd2 0 - 0 0 0 Empty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd3 0 - 0 0 0 Empty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd4 0 - 0 0 0 Empty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Input in the following format; absent fields get a default >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually you only need to specify and (and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps ). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1 :? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trailing junk after number >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1 : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Mike Ballon < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mike.ballon@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First I was wrong to say that /dev/sdd1 would not exist it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you simply unmounted it. I believe it can vary between a physical system >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a VM. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- returns the memory stick i just plugged in and assigns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> device /dev/sdb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> dmesg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ 452.300827] scsi 3:0:0:0: Direct-Access Kingston >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DataTraveler 2.0 PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ 452.302226] sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ 452.316528] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] 15240576 512-byte logical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blocks: (7.80 GB/7.26 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- automount presents the stick to me because it has a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file system >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> mount | grep sdb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdb1 on /media/UNTITLED type vfat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- fdisk returns the partition info >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> fdisk -l /dev/sdb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdb1 2 15240575 7620287 b >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> W95 FAT32 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- use fdisk to delete the partition >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> fdisk /dev/sdb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > d >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > w >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > p >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- use fdisk to create the partition >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> fdisk /dev/sdb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > o >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > n >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > 1 (press enter 3times) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > t >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > b >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > w >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> Command > p >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdb1 2048 15240575 7619264 b >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> W95 FAT32 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- make the file system if needed, I say if needed because >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since the partition is exactly the same and the fs is the same, automount >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mounted the stick for me automagically >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> umount /dev/sdb1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> mount /dev/sdb /mnt/foobar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> touch /mnt/foobar/test.txt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> ls /mnt/fobar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test.txt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- oops forgot the renaming of volume, I'm on debian so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> apt-get install mtools >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Setting up mtools (4.0.17-1) ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $> mlabel -i /dev/sdb1 ::usb_stick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again... gparted is your friend >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Mike Ballon < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mike.ballon@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you unmounted then /dev/sdd1 would no longer be there. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give me a few mins and I'll spin up a VM (I'm on a Mac) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I'll run through all the steps for you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Michael Havens < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bummer.... new drive: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mount >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1 on /media/bmike1/OpenELEC type vfat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks2) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdd1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1: No such file or directory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdd1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1: No such file or directory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e2label /dev/sdd1 Pny2G >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e2label: No such file or directory while trying to open >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /dev/sdd1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what am I doing wrong? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Michael Havens < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that wouldn't change a vfat system but it inspired the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct search terms and I found 'dosfslabel'. Thanks for the help, man:D >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Ryan Rix wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, you're right Mike. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive#FAT16_and_FAT32 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Havens writes: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > same thing: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > sudo e2label /dev/sdd1 Goodwill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > e2label: Bad magic number in super-block while >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to open >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > /dev/sdd1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > could it be because it is a vfat file system? (while >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love linux I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > like to have the ability for my flash drives to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used on common >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > computers) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Mike Ballon < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mike.ballon@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > It's I file system label so yes, you'll need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> format. If there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > is no partition will have to create a partition >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before you can do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > a mkfs gparted should do all that for you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On May 5, 2014 7:47 PM, "Michael Havens" < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks Mike. Does this error mean I need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> format the drive? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > sudo e2label /dev/sdc1 Goodwill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > e2label: Bad magic number in super-block >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while trying to open >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > /dev/sdc1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > This is what 'mount' shows sdc1 to be: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > /dev/sdc1 on /media/bmike1/OpenELEC type vfat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks2) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > and to format this and apply the label it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdc1;e2label /dev/sdc1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goodwill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Mike Ballon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > e2label >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Michael >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Havens >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I have a few flash drives. When I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plug them in to my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > computer a name referring to that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flash drive appears >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > in the file manager. I have two >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions: the first >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > is how do I change that name? 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