you say recode all the man pages.... may I recommend you recode the basic ones and the ones you use. Then you could post something on a seeing impaired board saying if any one has the need of this for a certain man page they email you (or something like that). :-)~MIKE~(-: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:07 PM, eric oyen wrote: > such ideas are often born of necessity. In my case, I need to be able to > read man pages and they don't quite read right with a screen reader. > > -eric > > On Aug 27, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > > > that is a great idea! I wish I could have such brilliant ideas..... > > > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 3:34 PM, eric oyen wrote: > > > >> I know what I should do… Recode all the man pages so that they are > easier > >> to read in braille. right now, trying to read a man page in braille is > an > >> exercise in frustration. the terminal window has that stupid bar at the > >> bottom that makes reading sequentially nearly impossible without having > to > >> back scroll and then read more. from that point. > >> > >> The biggest problem I am seeing right now is that a man page editor > >> included with most standard installs of Linux just isn't very > accessible. > >> > >> Anyway, thats my take on a project I should do. It will be something to > do > >> while I am looking for work. > >> > >> -eric > >> > >> On Aug 27, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Mark Phillips wrote: > >> > >>> An additional thought. Once you find your programming passion, look > >> around > >>> for an opensource project that interests you. Spend some time helping > out > >>> on that project to hone your skills. There will be mentors there as > well. > >>> You may have to try a couple of projects to find a community that you > >> like. > >>> With a little hands on experience on one or more projects, you will at > >> the > >>> very least, have some real world development challenges/solutions to > talk > >>> about in an interview, something to put on your resume, and code your > >>> potential employer can look at. > >>> > >>> Good luck! > >>> > >>> Mark > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:07 AM, keith smith > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Since I started paying attention in about 1983, there has been an > >>>> overwhelming demand for developers. However the other side of this > >> coin is > >>>> gaining entry. For me finding that door was not easy. > >>>> > >>>> One thing life has tough me is most employers are looking for skills > >> and a > >>>> track record, even for the entry level position. > >>>> > >>>> My suggestion is first to determine what your passion about. Then > learn > >>>> it and do something on your own. You might want to find a mentor who > >> has > >>>> experience in that area. The mentor can guide you in what you will > >> need to > >>>> know to be entry level and what types of things you might do to show > you > >>>> have at least entry level skills. > >>>> > >>>> Once you have decent skills you may want to keep your day job and > start > >>>> doing side projects until the demand for your side projects over takes > >> your > >>>> day job. This may be counter indicated for trying to find a job. I > do > >> not > >>>> know this for a fact, however I hear some or most employers do not > like > >>>> those who are entrepreneurial. However if you would like to be on your > >> won > >>>> this is a good plan. > >>>> > >>>> If working for yourself is not for you, then you might start > contacting > >>>> hiring managers and pitch yourself. This will allow you to learn > about > >> the > >>>> demand and what it takes to get one of those jobs. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------ > >>>> Keith Smith > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------ > >>>> *From:* Trent Shipley > >>>> *To:* "plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" < > >> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>; > >>>> AzIPA > >>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2013 5:48 PM > >>>> *Subject:* First Job > >>>> > >>>> I would like a very entry level job in programming or in reporting. > I'm > >>>> not worried about the offshore competition. The advertisements say > that > >>>> after 5 years you make 60-80 K as a programmer. > >>>> > >>>> I have a degree in mathematics from 1989, a Master of Science in > >>>> Information Management (from 2009), and more semesters than not I > take a > >>>> computer course at the community college. I recently finished two > >>>> semesters of C#. I've take CS 205 in Java, but that was over 8 years > >> ago. > >>>> I just finished the first semester of Java. I am now taking SQL > Server. > >>>> > >>>> I am working on a Certificate of Completion in Programming at Rio > >> Salado > >>>> Community College. > >>>> > >>>> Unfortunately, the ads tend to ask for a 4 years Computer Science > degree > >>>> and a year of experience (presumably as an intern or employed in your > >> field > >>>> while still a student.) > >>>> > >>>> Also, I make in the low 40's with good benefits as an administrative > >>>> assistant, and it looks like entry level jobs don't come close. > >>>> > >>>> Do I have a chance without leaving Phoenix? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------- > >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------- > >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >>>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------- > >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >