that is a great idea! I wish I could have such brilliant ideas..... :-)~MIKE~(-: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 3:34 PM, eric oyen wrote: > I know what I should do… Recode all the man pages so that they are easier > to read in braille. right now, trying to read a man page in braille is an > exercise in frustration. the terminal window has that stupid bar at the > bottom that makes reading sequentially nearly impossible without having to > back scroll and then read more. from that point. > > The biggest problem I am seeing right now is that a man page editor > included with most standard installs of Linux just isn't very accessible. > > Anyway, thats my take on a project I should do. It will be something to do > while I am looking for work. > > -eric > > On Aug 27, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Mark Phillips wrote: > > > An additional thought. Once you find your programming passion, look > around > > for an opensource project that interests you. Spend some time helping out > > on that project to hone your skills. There will be mentors there as well. > > You may have to try a couple of projects to find a community that you > like. > > With a little hands on experience on one or more projects, you will at > the > > very least, have some real world development challenges/solutions to talk > > about in an interview, something to put on your resume, and code your > > potential employer can look at. > > > > Good luck! > > > > Mark > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:07 AM, keith smith > wrote: > > > >> > >> Since I started paying attention in about 1983, there has been an > >> overwhelming demand for developers. However the other side of this > coin is > >> gaining entry. For me finding that door was not easy. > >> > >> One thing life has tough me is most employers are looking for skills > and a > >> track record, even for the entry level position. > >> > >> My suggestion is first to determine what your passion about. Then learn > >> it and do something on your own. You might want to find a mentor who > has > >> experience in that area. The mentor can guide you in what you will > need to > >> know to be entry level and what types of things you might do to show you > >> have at least entry level skills. > >> > >> Once you have decent skills you may want to keep your day job and start > >> doing side projects until the demand for your side projects over takes > your > >> day job. This may be counter indicated for trying to find a job. I do > not > >> know this for a fact, however I hear some or most employers do not like > >> those who are entrepreneurial. However if you would like to be on your > won > >> this is a good plan. > >> > >> If working for yourself is not for you, then you might start contacting > >> hiring managers and pitch yourself. This will allow you to learn about > the > >> demand and what it takes to get one of those jobs. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------ > >> Keith Smith > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> *From:* Trent Shipley > >> *To:* "plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>; > >> AzIPA > >> *Sent:* Monday, August 26, 2013 5:48 PM > >> *Subject:* First Job > >> > >> I would like a very entry level job in programming or in reporting. I'm > >> not worried about the offshore competition. The advertisements say that > >> after 5 years you make 60-80 K as a programmer. > >> > >> I have a degree in mathematics from 1989, a Master of Science in > >> Information Management (from 2009), and more semesters than not I take a > >> computer course at the community college. I recently finished two > >> semesters of C#. I've take CS 205 in Java, but that was over 8 years > ago. > >> I just finished the first semester of Java. I am now taking SQL Server. > >> > >> I am working on a Certificate of Completion in Programming at Rio > Salado > >> Community College. > >> > >> Unfortunately, the ads tend to ask for a 4 years Computer Science degree > >> and a year of experience (presumably as an intern or employed in your > field > >> while still a student.) > >> > >> Also, I make in the low 40's with good benefits as an administrative > >> assistant, and it looks like entry level jobs don't come close. > >> > >> Do I have a chance without leaving Phoenix? > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >