I don't want to buy a windows license because I'll never use it.  I 
think I'll skip the laptop and get a computer without an os or with 
Ubuntu.  Thanks everyone for your input.

On 08/15/2013 09:05 PM, Stephen wrote:
>
> They pay canonical because it comes with support I believe.
>
> On Aug 15, 2013 9:00 PM, "Joseph Sinclair" <plug-discussion@stcaz.net 
> <mailto:plug-discussion@stcaz.net>> wrote:
>
>     For desktops, there are systems available bare bones and/or
>     complete without O/S on NewEgg, among other places.
>     Bare Bones (complete except you have to add RAM and Storage,
>     sometimes CPU) usually work well, I've had good experience with
>     the small Zotac mini desktop systems, there are others (e.g.
>     Shuttle), however.
>
>     Laptops are harder; I've only ever seen a very few without Windows
>     installed, and aside from the couple of models Dell sells with
>     Ubuntu pre-installed (BTW, those are the same price as the Windows
>     laptops because Dell pays Canonical as much for Ubuntu as they pay
>     MS for Windows), System76 and ZaReason are about the only places
>     I've seen OEM linux laptops.
>     A lot of the "linux" laptops were purchased OEM (often Lenovo)
>     with Windows installed, then reimaged (Red7 used to do this) with
>     Linux.  That's not what you appear to be looking for.
>
>     Links:
>
>     [1]
>     http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/laptops?~ck=bt#!facets=80770~0~1791343&p=1
>     <http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/laptops?%7Eck=bt#%21facets=80770%7E0%7E1791343&p=1>
>     [2]
>     http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100019096&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&CompareItemList=10%7C83-252-027%5E83-252-027-02%23%2C83-218-025%5E83-218-025-02%23%2C83-252-029%5E83-252-029-02%23%2C83-218-024%5E83-218-024-01%23&percm=83-252-027%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B83-218-025%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B83-252-029%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B83-218-024%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24
>     [3]
>     http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006740&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=32%7C34-314-115%5E9B34-314-115-01%23%2C34-231-067%5E34-231-067-TS
>     [4] http://us.shuttle.com/Models.aspx
>     [5] http://www.zotacusa.com/
>
>     On 08/14/2013 08:32 PM, Derek Trotter wrote:
>     > Is there anyone who sells computers without an operating system?
>      Sooner or later I'll buy another one and I don't want to pay for
>     a Windows license I'll never use. Also is there anyone selling
>     computers with linux installed?  If so which distro?  If all else
>     fails, I'll just buy the parts and build one.  However that might
>     prove difficult if I wanted a laptop.
>     >
>     >
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