On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Paul Mooring wrote: > That being said, you're right just switching distros for the desktop > environment wouldn't make a whole lot of since, but things like apt (and > it's overly opinionated packages) and upstart are too integral to the OS to > make using alternatives not a huge pain. > I remember when I first switched from Slackware (everything complied from source) to Redhat... all of their changes infuriated me; especially changes to the boot process which resulted in a machine that wouldn't boot when I rebuilt the kernel the 'Slackware way'. I eventually got used to Redhat's way and have a love hate relationship with RPM/yum. I used Debian for a long time too and liked apt-get over yum for a long time. Ubuntu's changes are about as annoying to me as Redhat's were. Apt-get/yum are about equivalent and both can get you into dependency hell but they work for the most part. I haven't liked the changes in Fedora with Gnome lately either... switched my desktop to cinnamon instead. I want my start menu and virtual desktops... I don't want a desktop that wants to be a tablet. JD -- JD Austin Voice: 480.269.4335 (480 2MY Geek) jd@twingeckos.com