seems on topic to this off topic discussion... http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/text-of-a-july-2-2013-letter-to-edward-snowden-from-his-father-and-fathers-attorney/2013/07/02/e62ff87e-e350-11e2-bffd-37a36ddab820_story.html Eric On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 4:01 PM, keith smith wrote: > > Just say no to FEEMA! If you say no to ObamaCare it will cost you some > tax dollars (fine). If you say no to gun control you might go to jail. > > ------------------------ > Keith Smith > > --- On *Tue, 7/2/13, skreimey@gmail.com * wrote: > > > From: skreimey@gmail.com > Subject: Re: OT: Secret spying on your Internet activity? > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > Date: Tuesday, July 2, 2013, 8:55 AM > > Writing my reps didn't accomplish much during TARP. Finding ways to not > participate in or support policies you oppose in your daily life is > probably the most effective form of activism. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone > > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "keith smith" > To: "Ken" , "Main PLUG discussion list" < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> > Subject: OT: Secret spying on your Internet activity? > Date: Mon, Jul 1, 2013 5:01 PM > > > > > I would vet them first. You can always call, email, or fax your us rep > and us senators. > > This looks like a Gov site. If it is I'd stay away. > > ------------------------ > Keith Smith > > --- On *Mon, 7/1/13, Ken * wrote: > > > From: Ken > Subject: OT: Secret spying on your Internet activity? > To: "plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org" > Date: Monday, July 1, 2013, 1:17 PM > > Are these online petitions worth signing? Or is it just a way to get your > email addy on more spam lists? > > > -K > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > *From:* Change.org > *To:* parabellum7@yahoo.com > *Sent:* Monday, July 1, 2013 9:39 AM > *Subject:* Secret spying on your Internet activity? > > [image: Change.org] > *Ken* - There's a new petition taking off on Change.org, > and we think you might be interested in signing it: > Eric > Holder: Allow tech companies to publish NSA PRISM data > By Alec F. Alameda, California > Sign Alec's Petition > > After a leak of documents from the National Security Agency > showed that a secret program called PRISM allows widespread surveillance of > U.S. citizens' phone and internet activities with some of the world's > biggest tech corporations, the nation is concerned and confused about our > privacy rights. > President Obama and the NSA have stated that widespread spying of > Americans is not taking place and that the government is only requesting > certain data from these companies. There is an easy way to show if this is > true and that companies like Google, Facebook, Microsoft, and Twitter have > taken the commendable step of requesting that the NSA allow them to publish > the records of government data requests in their company transparency > reports. > In part, Google's letter states: > *Assertions in the press that our compliance with these requests gives > the U.S. government unfettered access to our users’ data are simply untrue. > However, government nondisclosure obligations regarding the number of FISA > national security requests that Google receives, as well as the number of > accounts covered by those requests, fuel that speculation.* > * > We therefore ask you to help make it possible for Google to publish in our Transparency > Report aggregate > numbers of national security requests, including FISA disclosures—in terms > of both the number we receive and their scope. Google’s numbers would > clearly show that our compliance with these requests falls far short of the > claims being made. Google has nothing to hide. * > The government allowed Google to start reporting the number of national > security letters they received requesting data earlier this year, but > they are still barred from releasing information about Foreign Intelligence > Surveillance Act (FISA) orders. The requests for this data often comes in > the form of secret court orders that not only force these companies to give > data but also make it impossible for them to discuss even the basic > details. That should change. > By allowing these companies to include this information in their > transparency reports, the government will be giving American citizens at > least some of the insight we deserve about how our daily activities like > emails and Google searches are being tracked by the government. > Sign Alec's Petition > > The person (or organization) who started this petition is > not affiliated with Change.org. Change.org did not create this petition and > is not responsible for the petition content. > This email was sent by Change.org to parabellum7@yahoo.com. 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