ohhhhhh.... thanks for that! :-)~MIKE~(-: On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > Mike, > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > >> i'm not doing internet marketing..... I am targeting specific people who >> are owed money. If they don't like the service I am offering they never >> hear from me again. :) >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> > > That is specifically what is referred to as Non-solicited bulk email > marketing. I.E. SPAM UBE (unsolicited bulk email): > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_spam > > To send non-solicited email to individuals you MUST meet various > requirements - OPT OUT link at the bottom of all mail with content/subject > meeting requirements. > > What IS the difference between a mailinglist and a spam list: > > http://www.spamhaus.org/whitepapers/mailinglists/ > > The bottom line here is that (excerpt): > > *In the event of a "spam" accusation:* > > The Bulk Email Sender has no verifiable proof that the recipient consented > to be placed on the bulk mailing list and is therefore liable for having > sent Unsolicited Bulk Email a/k/a Spam. Action can be taken against the > Sender. The sending of Unsolicited Bulk Email is against all ISP Terms of > Service worldwide, is illegal in many countries, and is against Spamhaus > SBL policy. > > > >> >> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: >> >>> Email pharming and phishing is a "well" developed part of internet >>> marketing. >>> >>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Derek Trotter >> > wrote: >>> >>>> Good luck finding a database that will be useful. It's very easy to >>>> change email addresses. Also it's easy to get an email address without >>>> giving your real name or any other real information. I've had one for >>>> several years. When I signed up for it, Yahoo asked me where I lived. I >>>> told them I live in Beverly Hills. I know snail mail is more expensive, >>>> but you have a better chance of reaching customers who live in the area >>>> you're targeting. You might look online and find an email address for John >>>> Smith, but is that the John Smith in Cottonwood, or is it the John smith in >>>> Barrow, or one in Melbourne? >>>> >>>> To get accurate email addresses, you would be better off putting up a >>>> request on your business website. If you have a form on the site, >>>> customers can use that. Just be sure to code the form so that someone >>>> can't see the email address the submissions will be going to. Also you can >>>> give an email address, but write out everything instead of using . and @. >>>> For example: greg dot house at vicodin dot com >>>> >>>> >>>> On 05/30/2013 08:59 PM, Michael Havens wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm in a new business venture and I need to find peoples email >>>> addresses to make the process easier. Otherwise I will have to go the >>>> snail-mail route. Does anyone know of a database tht matches names to email >>>> addresses? My web search gave me two (http://usenet-addresses.mit.edu/ >>>> http://www.netlib.org/na-net/search_mail_forw.html) but I didn't find >>>> any searched for addresses. (no I am not getting into spamming people) >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>>> >>> You pretty much need to have your customers opt in to really use email >>> marketing successfully. Therefore, companies generally have contests or >>> require a registration that creates a list for mass mailings that can be >>> exported to something like OpenEMM or a MailMonkey list plugin to a CMS >>> (like drupal, Concrete5 or Wordpress). >>> >>> There are many tools that will walk large numbers of websites scraping >>> off email addresses and you can but marketing lists that are guaranteed to >>> be successful for various types of products. >>> >>> If you are planning to do email marketing you will need a completely >>> functional unsubscribe link (like that provided from OpenEMM) for the >>> bottom of your emails. >>> >>> You will also require a static IP address (that has a perfectly unique >>> reverse DNS that is not designated in the SWIP database as "dynamic" like >>> those from cox to get around spamassassin scoring issues, and SPF records. >>> >>> But if you are serious about getting email addresses (and other >>> information) simply by the use of name/city search, you might get or write >>> an API that will do a quick search/scrape of sites like spokeo.com that >>> generally contain a great deal of public information. >>> >>> Spokeo's paid service WILL most often provide what you need. Writing >>> the php, perl or python script that does the lookup for you automatically >>> and scrapes the email address(es) into your database is also very trivial: >>> >>> http://www.mozenda.com/email-extractor >>> >>> There are other free search services (which I posted some years ago to >>> discuss) that have an incredible amount of private information. Here's the >>> full list: >>> >>> https://www.privacyrights.org/online-information-brokers-list >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> "I get my copy of the daily paper, look at the obituaries page, and if I’m not there, I carry on as usual." >>>> >>>> Patrick Moore >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> (503) 754-4452 Android >>> (623) 239-3392 Skype >>> (623) 688-3392 Google Voice >>> ** >>> it-clowns.com >>> Chief Clown >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > > (503) 754-4452 Android > (623) 239-3392 Skype > (623) 688-3392 Google Voice > ** > it-clowns.com > Chief Clown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >