if you really want to increas membership combine asulug and PLUG. :-)~MIKE~(-: On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > the only thing I see wrong with PLUG (if you want growth) is that they > don't advertise. But then again, aren't there always new-comers at > installfests? > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:29 PM, der.hans wrote: > >> Am 07. May, 2013 schwätzte Lisa Kachold so: >> >> moin moin Lisa, >> >> A "steering committee" is clearly not a group of officers, with a >>> mission, >>> term, and empowered to meet various roles in the community, therefore, >>> the >>> >> >> Why is it not? In the case of PLUG, it is essentially a group of officers >> with a mission and empowered to meet various roles in the community. >> >> In any case, it's the volunteers who do things that decide the direction >> for PLUG. >> >> loose, possibly anarchic PLUG control and growth never evolve. Did the >>> PLUG ever obtain non-profit status riding under another 501-3C? Why not? >>> >> >> Running a 501(c)3 requires follow-through. That's something we haven't >> accomplished any of the times we've worked to start one. In any case, it's >> orthogonal to what PLUG needs. It's a red herring. >> >> Committee". Can you tell me who are the members of the Steering >>> Committee, >>> and what they do or just who decides who is on that Committee (again >>> Hans, >>> right)? >>> >> >> Lisa, for years you've been making these inaccurate claims and for years >> you've been corrected. Please stop. We get regular comments about having a >> behaved and useful list. False claims detract from that. >> >> PLUG is not run by me or any other single person. PLUG activities happen >> because volunteers put in the effort to make them happen. I am not >> involved in the Installfests or the security meetings. They happen because >> volunteers such as yourself make them happen. >> >> I also do not control the steering committee or any other aspect of >> PLUG. At least one person has made it on the steering committee against my >> vote. Majority winѕ. >> >> I am not just complaining, I am comparing from an educated experienced >>> viewpoint, for the purposes of PLUG Change and GROWTH! >>> >> >> Fine, make comparisons. Explain what you've learned from experience. >> That's good and positive. >> >> Repeatedly making false claims is not helpful. Your false claims also >> distract and obscure anything positive you might be trying to accomplish. >> >> ciao, >> >> der.hans >> -- >> # http://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.LuftHans.com/**Classes/ >> # Free, Libre, and Open Source enthusiasts are collaborators. Maybe we're >> # involved for slightly different reasons, but in the end, we're all >> # essentially trying to go the same direction. -- der.hans, 2012Jan25 >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > >