Also gem management can be a pain for dispersed development and operations teams. On Jan 20, 2013 3:53 PM, "Bryan O'Neal" wrote: > Rails is fine until you need to horizontal scale. Java is a dream for that. > On Jan 20, 2013 2:56 PM, "Kevin Fries" wrote: > >> For what you describe... >> >> If it were me doing it. I would be looking first to Rails, and a >> secondary at Java. >> >> This is exactly in the wheelhouse of Rails and Django. >> >> Kevin >> On Jan 20, 2013 2:30 PM, "keith smith" wrote: >> >>> >>> I need to upgrade an ecommerce site that serves a virtual company. It >>> actually does more than ecommerce. None of us are in the same community. >>> We are spread to the winds. So we rely on the web to make it happen. Our >>> current solution was written in PHP 4 by someone else. I upgrade it to PHP >>> 5 about 4 years ago. It is full of patches, some old code and some new. >>> Part is MVC and other parts have HTML and PHP mixed together with DB code. >>> It is time to do a complete makeover and add a ton of functionality. I've >>> been looking at CodeIgniter for the project. However Java has jumped up on >>> my radar again. I say again, because I have studied and played with Java >>> multiple times over the past 10 or 12 years. >>> >>> As I think about this, I think we can use Java to do the web app, and >>> potentially create a desktop app to allow the operations folks to have >>> access with an app that runs on their Win or MAC PC's. Potentially maybe >>> even a smart device app. >>> >>> Any thoughts are always appreciated. >>> >>> ------------------------ >>> Keith Smith >>> >>> --- On *Sun, 1/20/13, Bryan O'Neal >>> * wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Bryan O'Neal >>> Subject: Re: OT: Java vs PHP >>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>> Date: Sunday, January 20, 2013, 1:38 PM >>> >>> The question I have is what you are doing. If it is small with few hits >>> and non stateful data use PHP or even rails. If you are doing an massively >>> scaled ecommerce site then you use java. It is a matter of which does what >>> better. As for the individual thinking java was client side, I suggest >>> that perhaps you are thinking java script not java. Java is server side and >>> processed tomcat or jboss. >>> Personal I like java :) >>> On Jan 20, 2013 12:24 PM, "keith smith" > >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am in the process of planning a web project. I'm thinking possibly >>> using Java. To this point I have done all my web projects using PHP. I >>> know there will be a learning curve. >>> >>> My main question is the availability of Java programmers. It seems >>> there is a lot of PHP talent available for PHP projects. I like that there >>> is a lot of availability of PHP programmer because that makes my apps >>> supportable if I move on or am otherwise not available. >>> >>> I have not met a lot of Java programmers, so I assume they are not >>> available the same way PHP programmers are. In other words I think I can >>> visit Gang Plank HQ and find a hand full of PHP programmers that I would >>> fee good about pulling into a project. I'm not sure I can say the same >>> with Java programmers, however I have not paid much attention when it comes >>> to Java programmers. >>> >>> You thoughts are much appreciated!! >>> >>> ------------------------ >>> Keith Smith >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >