I have no problem with Mint13. They never have forced me to do an update
and when I do an update I can tell it what to (and not to) update
:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 11:35 PM, <joe@actionline.com> wrote:

> As a long-time Linux user, I have tried dozens of different Linux distros
> and been repeatedly frustrated by the endless changes that often seem to
> have made things worse (for me) rather than better.
>
> Of course, there have also been many improvements along the way, but I've
> been burned so many times by doing an update that created a horrific mess
> that I finally came to the point that I have kept one or more older
> systems running an older version of some distro that I got to a reliable
> state as a fall-back position when updates on newer distros created yet
> another nightmare for me.
>
> The best (for me) system I ever had was PCLinuxOS with KDE 3.5 and I still
> have it on a couple of my systems which I *never* "updated" and which have
> remained rock solid.  Simultaneously, I suffered through endless ongoing
> nightmares with KDE 4 until I finally got a system that sort-of worked,
> marginally, but with a lot of goofy, needless widgets and garbage that I
> did not and do not want.
>
> Meanwhile, I tried numerous other distros and environments, none of which
> were as stable, practical, versatile, and functional (to my liking) as PCL
> KDE 3.5.
>
> Just as I started to get a PCL-KDE 4.6 to work reasonably well, PCL forced
> some new so-called "updates" on me that wrecked the whole system and
> caused it to completely quit working.  So, I am finally fed up with PCL's
> "rolling release" fiasco and trying, once again, to find a Linux distro
> that I can "lock-in" without being subjected to yet more "updates" that
> screw up my whole world and cause me endless wasted hours trying to fix
> what wasn't broken before another nuisance "update."
>
> Since I have always preferred a Redhat based derivative, I've generally
> tried to avoid anything *buntu based.  Among the many dozens of distros
> I've tried, older versions of Mandriva and PCLinux have been the
> best/most-stable I've used. I also tried CentOS and Mageia but ran into
> numerous problems with them.  Also tried Mint, Suse, Arch, Puppy, Sabayon,
> Slackware, Vector, Knoppix, Backtrack, Salix, among many more. I know that
> I want nothing to do with gnome or unity.
>
> Recently I tried Kubuntu (12.04) and it seemed potentially pretty good
> (with a few annoying problems), but then right after I installed it, I got
> an "update" notice listing a huge number of changes it wants to do and I
> thought "Oh, no, not again."
>
> So, please forgive the rant, but why can't we have stable Linux distro
> that doesn't try to force endless "updates" on us?   I hate updates.  They
> almost always mess up my systems.
>
> I just want a stable system that does not keep pushing changes.
>
> Are any of you Kubuntu users who have done all these hundreds of changes
> to 12.04 without experiencing problems as a result?
>
>
>
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