Thanks, buddy! On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Kevin Fries wrote: > If you were not confused enough, there is also sshfs, where you can > mount a file system, like nfs, but use sftp protocol instead. This also > does not open up a second port, but uses your port 22 instead. > > Aren't you glad you asked ;-) > > Kevin > > On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 15:36 -0700, Michael Havens wrote: > > >"Personally, I am not a fan of NFS. If I want files on another > > machine,I > > > open Nautulus (desktop file browser in Ubuntu), and type:> > > > > > ssh://myothermachine > > > > >I now have a windows that I can drag and drop files to and from. And > > if > > >I want to run something on that machine, I will use Free-NX. And it > > can > > >use the same SSH tunnel to do both. > > > > This is what I had in mind when I started this venture; but I think it > > would be good to learn both NFS and Free-NX. > > > > So I restarted the service, (it was nfs-kernel-service if you care). > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Kevin Fries > > wrote: > > NFS is file sharing, like mounting a server directory in > > Windows. In > > the Windows platform, there are two programs that are > > installed as part > > of the standard Windows: Server, and Workstation. > > > > Server is what creates shares on your system that others can > > see through > > network neighborhood (or whatever MS is calling it this week, > > Network > > Places?) > > > > Workstation is the software that makes the link and makes it > > available > > to the current machine. > > > > Linux can install SMB to connect, or share its folders using > > the Windows > > protocol, called CIFS (old references will still call it SMB, > > which is > > its predecessor) > > > > Linux also has support for the old Unix equivalent, NFS, or > > Network File > > System. In NFS, the Server portion is handled by a daemon, > > and you > > create your shares though the /etc/exports file. The client > > side is > > handled via the standard mount command. But it is just a > > second > > protocol to handle the same task. > > > > Windows systems can also mount NFS drives, but you have to > > find, and > > install, the software separately. Mac's btw act exactly like > > Linux > > machine's in this case, and therefore can mount NFS natively, > > or you can > > in stall the Samba to talk CIFS. > > > > What I thought you were talking about earlier was remote > > desktop access. > > This is a completely different topic. > > > > Remote desktop means that you will see machine-a's desktop on > > machine-b's screen. This allows you to run a program on > > machine-a while > > being currently logged into machine-b. For that, I > > recommended Free-NX. > > > > Again, you have the Windows technology, and the one everyone > > else uses. > > > > Windows natively has a program called Terminal Services. You > > can > > connect as a client to a server at any time. Every version > > since XP has > > had this software installed, but you are limited to 1-2 > > connections > > depending on your version of Windows. Ubuntu has a client for > > Terminal > > Server also. > > > > Linux and Mac machines generally use a program called VNC for > > remote > > desktop. It is included with every version I have ever seen > > of Linux > > (or is in the repositories). VNC has no security in it by > > default, so > > many tools have been built to secure the connection. The > > simplest is > > generally to tunnel it though a SSH connection. > > > > When I recommended Free-NX for remote desktop, It was due to > > the fact > > that you are obviously new to all of this, and wanted to point > > you to > > the easiest way to install the software. Free-NX will require > > you to > > have SSH setup between the machines (easy enough), and it will > > tunnel > > between the machine a VNC session. It hides all of this tough > > a very > > straightforward GUI, so it is fairly easy for a nubie. > > > > But Free-NX will not share files, it only let you see the > > desktop on the > > other side. > > > > NFS will not let you see the other side, or run programs on > > the remote > > machine, it will only share files. > > > > Personally, I am not a fan of NFS. If I want files on another > > machine, > > I open Nautulus (desktop file browser in Ubuntu), and type: > > > > ssh://myothermachine > > > > I now have a windows that I can drag and drop files to and > > from. And if > > I want to run something on that machine, I will use Free-NX. > > And it can > > use the same SSH tunnel to do both. > > > > Good Luck > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 14:35 -0700, Michael Havens wrote: > > > I am confused..... what exactly does NFS do? Maybe we should > > do both! > > > Below is the /etc/exports file i created for the computer I > > decided to > > > make the server > > > > > > # /etc/exports: the access control list for filesystems > > which may > > > be exported > > > / 192.168.0.0(ro) 192.168.0.1(ro) > > 192.168.0.4(rw,sync) > > > /home 192.168.0.2(ro,sync) > > > > > > (computers) > > > > > > (192.168.0.0) I don't know where this device is. I > > figure it has > > > to do with the router. > > > (192.168.0.1) Is the address to the router > > > (192.168.0.2) is the address to the windows box > > > (192.168.0.3) is the address to the designated server > > > (192.168.0.4) Is the address to the laptop wifi > > > > > > This is /etc/hosts.deny: > > > > > > portmap : all > > > lockd : all > > > mountd : all > > > rquotad : all > > > statd : all > > > > > > this is /etc/allow: > > > > > > portmap 192.168.0.0/192.168.0.4 > > > lockd : 192.168.0.0/192.168.0.4 > > > mountd : 192.168.0.0/192.168.0.4 > > > rquotad : 192.168.0.0/192.168.0.4 > > > statd : 192.168.0.0/192.168.0.4 > > > > > > this being completed the next step in my guide tells me that > > these > > > daemons need to be started: > > > rpc.portmap > > > rpc.mountd, > > > rpc.nfsd > > > rpc.statd, > > > rpc.lockd (if necessary), and > > > rpc.rquotad > > > > > > google says that startup scrips are in /etc/init.d but in > > that directory the only rpc is rpcbind-boot which is a link > > to /lib/init/upstart-job > > > which is a script... one of the lines in it says: > > > > > > > > > > > > # Symlink target for initscripts that have been > > converted to Upstart. > > > > > > I'm a little lost! How do I get these scripts and add them > > to init.d or where should I put them? > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Kevin Fries > > > > > wrote: > > > Sorry I was slow to jump in on this one... > > > > > > NX rocks. I disagree that it is a pain to set up. > > It uses > > > VNC and SSH > > > to remote the desktop. Ubuntu .deb packages exist > > on their > > > site, so > > > install is pretty simple. And, it is as secure as > > anything > > > short of > > > full scale enterprise class application. > > > > > > HTH > > > Kevin > > > > > > On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 12:53 -0700, Michael Havens > > wrote: > > > > which way do you think is best for the learning > > experience? > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Stephen > > > wrote: > > > > you can use rlogin via ssh, and then xming > > and putty > > > to do the > > > > same > > > > from windows to Linux boxes. > > > > > > > > these will maintain the most open options. > > I have > > > use the > > > > xming/putty > > > > combination and its pretty nice. and as > > secure as > > > your ssh > > > > session :-) > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Matt > > Graham > > > > wrote: > > > > > From: Michael Havens > > > > >> No MAC. Two Linux boxes and 1 Windows > > XP box. Is > > > there a > > > > way to > > > > >> make it so that I can have the desktop > > of the > > > other > > > > computer on > > > > >> another or else is this all text? > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > > That's a bit of a different question, > > and has > > > nothing to do > > > > with NFS. This is > > > > > more like "remote access". There are a > > bunch of > > > ways; here > > > > are the most > > > > > popular: > > > > > > > > > > VNC/TightVNC : Totally cross-platform, > > tested, > > > stable, > > > > etcetera. On 'Doze, > > > > > TightVNC Server will, if run, make the > > 'Doze > > > desktop > > > > available to clients. On > > > > > Linux, you want x11vncserver or its > > > GUIfied/friendly > > > > counterparts KDE Desktop > > > > > Sharing or the GNOME equivalent > > (vino?). Many > > > clients > > > > exist. Pick your > > > > > favorite; they usually have "vnc" in > > their name > > > somewhere. > > > > NOTE: vncserver > > > > > and tightvncserver create a virtual > > Display > > > instead of > > > > sharing an > > > > > already-existing Display. > > > > > > > > > > Windows Desktop Sharing : A 'Doze box > > can share > > > its desktop > > > > to remote clients. > > > > > There's a Linux client called rdesktop > > that works > > > pretty > > > > well. Last I > > > > > checked, there was a proof-of-concept > > Linux server > > > that > > > > didn't work all that > > > > > well, so this is pretty much one-way > > only. > > > > > > > > > > NXServer : Proprietary free as in beer, > > but quite > > > fast over > > > > low-bandwidth > > > > > links. It's a bit of a pain to set up. > > It works > > > well once > > > > it's been set up. > > > > > > > > > > X11 : Can be used, usually isn't, since > > most > > > modern X > > > > servers are started with > > > > > -nolisten tcp , and GTK+ apps tend to > > behave badly > > > when not > > > > able to connect to > > > > > a local X socket. > > > > > > > > > > sshing to a Linux box is usually much > > faster than > > > dragging a > > > > GUI around. But > > > > > there are ways if you really need them. > > Don't > > > forget that > > > > you can "ssh -Y > > > > > remotehost xclient" to ssh to > > remotehost, then > > > tunnel X over > > > > ssh, so that > > > > > xclient is running on remotehost, but > > displaying > > > on your > > > > local Display, which > > > > > may be useful in some cases. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Matt G / Dances With Crows > > > > > The Crow202 Blog: > > http://crow202.org/wordpress/ > > > > > There is no Darkness in Eternity/But > > only Light > > > too dim for > > > > us to see > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > > > > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change > > your mail > > > settings: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm > > clock, > > > will prevent > > > > you from > > > > rolling over and going back to sleep after > > you hit > > > the snooze > > > > button. > > > > > > > > Stephen > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > > > > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change > > your mail > > > settings: > > > > > > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > > > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail > > settings: > > > > > > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > > > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail > > settings: > > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > > > -- > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: