>"Personally, I am not a fan of NFS. If I want files on another machine,I > open Nautulus (desktop file browser in Ubuntu), and type:> > ssh://myothermachine >I now have a windows that I can drag and drop files to and from. And if >I want to run something on that machine, I will use Free-NX. And it can >use the same SSH tunnel to do both. This is what I had in mind when I started this venture; but I think it would be good to learn both NFS and Free-NX. Okay.... I restarted the service (it was nfs-kernel-server if you care). On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Kevin Fries wrote: > NFS is file sharing, like mounting a server directory in Windows. In > the Windows platform, there are two programs that are installed as part > of the standard Windows: Server, and Workstation. > > Server is what creates shares on your system that others can see through > network neighborhood (or whatever MS is calling it this week, Network > Places?) > > Workstation is the software that makes the link and makes it available > to the current machine. > > Linux can install SMB to connect, or share its folders using the Windows > protocol, called CIFS (old references will still call it SMB, which is > its predecessor) > > Linux also has support for the old Unix equivalent, NFS, or Network File > System. In NFS, the Server portion is handled by a daemon, and you > create your shares though the /etc/exports file. The client side is > handled via the standard mount command. But it is just a second > protocol to handle the same task. > > Windows systems can also mount NFS drives, but you have to find, and > install, the software separately. Mac's btw act exactly like Linux > machine's in this case, and therefore can mount NFS natively, or you can > in stall the Samba to talk CIFS. > > What I thought you were talking about earlier was remote desktop access. > This is a completely different topic. > > Remote desktop means that you will see machine-a's desktop on > machine-b's screen. This allows you to run a program on machine-a while > being currently logged into machine-b. For that, I recommended Free-NX. > > Again, you have the Windows technology, and the one everyone else uses. > > Windows natively has a program called Terminal Services. You can > connect as a client to a server at any time. Every version since XP has > had this software installed, but you are limited to 1-2 connections > depending on your version of Windows. Ubuntu has a client for Terminal > Server also. > > Linux and Mac machines generally use a program called VNC for remote > desktop. It is included with every version I have ever seen of Linux > (or is in the repositories). VNC has no security in it by default, so > many tools have been built to secure the connection. The simplest is > generally to tunnel it though a SSH connection. > > When I recommended Free-NX for remote desktop, It was due to the fact > that you are obviously new to all of this, and wanted to point you to > the easiest way to install the software. Free-NX will require you to > have SSH setup between the machines (easy enough), and it will tunnel > between the machine a VNC session. It hides all of this tough a very > straightforward GUI, so it is fairly easy for a nubie. > > But Free-NX will not share files, it only let you see the desktop on the > other side. > > NFS will not let you see the other side, or run programs on the remote > machine, it will only share files. > > Personally, I am not a fan of NFS. If I want files on another machine, > I open Nautulus (desktop file browser in Ubuntu), and type: > > ssh://myothermachine > > I now have a windows that I can drag and drop files to and from. And if > I want to run something on that machine, I will use Free-NX. And it can > use the same SSH tunnel to do both. > > Good Luck > > Kevin > > > > > On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 14:35 -0700, Michael Havens wrote: > > I am confused..... what exactly does NFS do? Maybe we should do both! > > Below is the /etc/exports file i created for the computer I decided to > > make the server > > > > # /etc/exports: the access control list for filesystems which may > > be exported > > / 192.168.0.0(ro) 192.168.0.1(ro) 192.168.0.4(rw,sync) > > /home 192.168.0.2(ro,sync) > > > > (computers) > > > > (192.168.0.0) I don't know where this device is. I figure it has > > to do with the router. > > (192.168.0.1) Is the address to the router > > (192.168.0.2) is the address to the windows box > > (192.168.0.3) is the address to the designated server > > (192.168.0.4) Is the address to the laptop wifi > > > > This is /etc/hosts.deny: > > > > portmap : all > > lockd : all > > mountd : all > > rquotad : all > > statd : all > > > > this is /etc/allow: > > > > portmap 192.168.0.0/192.168.0.4 > > lockd : 192.168.0.0/192.168.0.4 > > mountd : 192.168.0.0/192.168.0.4 > > rquotad : 192.168.0.0/192.168.0.4 > > statd : 192.168.0.0/192.168.0.4 > > > > this being completed the next step in my guide tells me that these > > daemons need to be started: > > rpc.portmap > > rpc.mountd, > > rpc.nfsd > > rpc.statd, > > rpc.lockd (if necessary), and > > rpc.rquotad > > > > google says that startup scrips are in /etc/init.d but in that directory > the only rpc is rpcbind-boot which is a link to /lib/init/upstart-job > > which is a script... one of the lines in it says: > > > > > > > > # Symlink target for initscripts that have been converted to > Upstart. > > > > I'm a little lost! How do I get these scripts and add them to init.d or > where should I put them? > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Kevin Fries > > wrote: > > Sorry I was slow to jump in on this one... > > > > NX rocks. I disagree that it is a pain to set up. It uses > > VNC and SSH > > to remote the desktop. Ubuntu .deb packages exist on their > > site, so > > install is pretty simple. And, it is as secure as anything > > short of > > full scale enterprise class application. > > > > HTH > > Kevin > > > > On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 12:53 -0700, Michael Havens wrote: > > > which way do you think is best for the learning experience? > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Stephen > > wrote: > > > you can use rlogin via ssh, and then xming and putty > > to do the > > > same > > > from windows to Linux boxes. > > > > > > these will maintain the most open options. I have > > use the > > > xming/putty > > > combination and its pretty nice. and as secure as > > your ssh > > > session :-) > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Matt Graham > > > wrote: > > > > From: Michael Havens > > > >> No MAC. Two Linux boxes and 1 Windows XP box. Is > > there a > > > way to > > > >> make it so that I can have the desktop of the > > other > > > computer on > > > >> another or else is this all text? > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > That's a bit of a different question, and has > > nothing to do > > > with NFS. This is > > > > more like "remote access". There are a bunch of > > ways; here > > > are the most > > > > popular: > > > > > > > > VNC/TightVNC : Totally cross-platform, tested, > > stable, > > > etcetera. On 'Doze, > > > > TightVNC Server will, if run, make the 'Doze > > desktop > > > available to clients. On > > > > Linux, you want x11vncserver or its > > GUIfied/friendly > > > counterparts KDE Desktop > > > > Sharing or the GNOME equivalent (vino?). Many > > clients > > > exist. Pick your > > > > favorite; they usually have "vnc" in their name > > somewhere. > > > NOTE: vncserver > > > > and tightvncserver create a virtual Display > > instead of > > > sharing an > > > > already-existing Display. > > > > > > > > Windows Desktop Sharing : A 'Doze box can share > > its desktop > > > to remote clients. > > > > There's a Linux client called rdesktop that works > > pretty > > > well. Last I > > > > checked, there was a proof-of-concept Linux server > > that > > > didn't work all that > > > > well, so this is pretty much one-way only. > > > > > > > > NXServer : Proprietary free as in beer, but quite > > fast over > > > low-bandwidth > > > > links. It's a bit of a pain to set up. It works > > well once > > > it's been set up. > > > > > > > > X11 : Can be used, usually isn't, since most > > modern X > > > servers are started with > > > > -nolisten tcp , and GTK+ apps tend to behave badly > > when not > > > able to connect to > > > > a local X socket. > > > > > > > > sshing to a Linux box is usually much faster than > > dragging a > > > GUI around. But > > > > there are ways if you really need them. Don't > > forget that > > > you can "ssh -Y > > > > remotehost xclient" to ssh to remotehost, then > > tunnel X over > > > ssh, so that > > > > xclient is running on remotehost, but displaying > > on your > > > local Display, which > > > > may be useful in some cases. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Matt G / Dances With Crows > > > > The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.org/wordpress/ > > > > There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light > > too dim for > > > us to see > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > > > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail > > settings: > > > > > > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, > > will prevent > > > you from > > > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit > > the snooze > > > button. > > > > > > Stephen > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > > > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail > > settings: > > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > > > -- > > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: