My computer (IBM NetVista was produced sometime between 2000 and 2002. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_NetVista) On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:46 AM, Stephen wrote: > I have an old ed 120 gb drive. Only reason I don't use it is because its > noisy as hell. > > In this case I would really look into a small hardware update if you can > as your hitting a limit for replacement availability. > > And if you get a new Seagate or wd drive (retail not OEM) you can usually > get some tools to sidestep some of those limits. But if the hardware can > see it Linux will use it. > On Nov 20, 2011 12:30 AM, "Michael Havens" wrote: > >> i need too look closer... it is a lap top drive. Darn! >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Michael Havens wrote: >> >>> how about this drive: >>> >>> >>> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ide+hard+drive&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7836135078448000879&sa=X&ei=vqrITpTSDqOyiQKi4837Dw&ved=0CLwBEPICMAM >>> >>> it is only 80 gb. Is that too big? >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Michael Havens wrote: >>> >>>> I gave up on the external hd aspirations because my mobo probably won't >>>> boot a USB. You say that older mobos have problems recognizing larger >>>> disks.... 160 gb is probably one of those. Could I partition it maybe and >>>> it would see more of it... is there a work around? >>>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Jim March <1.jim.march@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Let me add some hard disk advice, regardless of whether you do >>>>> IDE/PATA or SATA. >>>>> >>>>> Laptop-class drives (2.5") are smaller and slower than a desktop-class >>>>> drive (3.5"). BUT the laptop drives are much tougher, esp. in terms of >>>>> drop-resistance, and put out a lot less heat. >>>>> >>>>> You'll pay more for the gigabyte for a laptop-class drive. >>>>> >>>>> If you're using a laptop IDE drive in a desktop computer, you need an >>>>> adapter to make it work. Costs $5 at Fry's Electronics. On SATA drives >>>>> the connectors are the same for laptop or desktop. >>>>> >>>>> If you have a motherboard without SATA support, a SATA PCI adapter >>>>> card is very cheap - about $20 tops (Fry's has tons). It can be a much, >>>>> much better idea to buy a SATA drive plus PCI adapter now as opposed to an >>>>> IDE drive for an older motherboard. By jumping to SATA right away you gain >>>>> the ability to upgrade to a hotter SATA-support motherboard later. And >>>>> usually, the SATA PCI adapter card will let you run a big SATA drive on a >>>>> motherboard that doesn't otherwise support big IDE/PATA drives, because the >>>>> SATA PCI adapter takes over a lot of the hard disk support firmware from >>>>> the motherboard. >>>>> >>>>> The best hard disks today are made by Western Digital, in my opinion. >>>>> A very close second is Seagate. Comparatively speaking, the Japanese such >>>>> as Hitachi, Toshiba and Fujitsu suck. In terms of reliability Samsungs >>>>> from Korea are actually better than the Japanese drives. Maxtor is >>>>> Seagate's "budget line" - avoid. >>>>> >>>>> If you're buying an external drive that is NOT made by one of the >>>>> above drive-makers (LaCie, Buffalo, SimpleTech, many MANY more) then you're >>>>> buying a pig in a poke. You have no idea what brand of actual drive is in >>>>> there unless you either crack the case open (breaking the warrantee most >>>>> likely) or you use software tools to probe the make/model info. If however >>>>> you buy a Western Digital external drive fr'instance, you can take it to >>>>> the bank that there's a WD drive in there. Same concept for all the rest, >>>>> except that Seagate owns Maxtor and might slap a Maxtor drive under a >>>>> Seagate-brand chassis. >>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps, >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:18 PM, JD Austin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> IDE, EIDE, and PATA (Parallel ATA) have the same interface. >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA >>>>>> >>>>>> Older motherboards may have trouble recognizing larger drives. >>>>>> IDE/EIDE/PATA is on it's way out.... get SATA if you have a choice >>>>>> since it's unlikely you'll find a motherboard with EIDE on it. >>>>>> Open Box= someone else didn't like it. >>>>>> I'd go SATA if I were you (supports native hot swapping). >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA >>>>>> I often use laptop drives for such things. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 18:48, Michael Havens wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> this is the ad: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.macconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=8239542&cm_mmc=Base-_-8239542-_-Used-_-WN3&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=8239542 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Michael Havens wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have a sales guy telling me at http://www.macconnection.com/that an eide drive (theirs) will work on an IDE system. Is this true. As >>>>>>>> stated before I don't know if my system is ide or eide. I have an IBM >>>>>>>> NetVista computer. This is what they're trying to sell: >>>>>>>> Open Box Western Digital 160GB Caviar SE EIDE 3.5" Hard Drive - 8MB >>>>>>>> Cache >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: