Thanks to all who responded. I believe this is an excellent subject for a blog after about 10,000 lab testing package comparison hours! Laugh! On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Bryan O'Neal < Bryan.ONeal@theonealandassociates.com> wrote: > Personal opinion - for large scale use with many people maintaining > different sections puppet is one of the best - however it is really > only good for file management. Since nearly everything on a linux > system is a file, this should not be a problem. As for user management > - I am still under the opinion on that (unless you are a pure Linux > environment) this should be solved by using Active Directory for > authentication and pam for access mismanagement. (if you don't want to > integrate your services with pam they probably have a simple > configuration file that controls access management that could be > handled by puppet just as easily) > Chef is more extensible with access to a full ruby stack - however > unless you have a very small group of well coordinated developers who > insist on adhering to standards you will rapidly find your > provisioning code will become unwieldy and almost useless as you > inheritances start overriding key portions without notice as to why or > what section did what. In the rite hands the flexibly is an asset that > may help solve key problems. In the wrong hands it will propagate > problems whose effect compound over time until the entire system is > scraped. > > Disclaimer - I know very little regarding this compared to others. I > use puppet, write manifests, build systems, etc. I am not responsible > for the engineering. > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Ed wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 4:59 PM, James Mcphee wrote: > >> I am also looking at implementing one of these at some point in the near > >> future. The standard scripts over ssh is simple and relatively well > >> controlled, but teaching new people how to use them and maintaining > them in > >> a sane fashion is troublesome. I've used a few HP, Dell, Sun, and IBM > >> config products in the past and they were all bad enough I went back to > >> scripts in no time. > >> > >> On Nov 5, 2011 11:33 AM, "Lisa Kachold" > wrote: > >>> > >>> Can anyone chime in on using enterprise mass systems configuration and > >>> management tools? > >>> > >>> What are you using? Chef, Puppet or CFEngine and why? > >>> > > > > I like CFengine - the task based focus is on "promises" and the > > install is painless. The only ruff spot I could point to is with > > application updates - the interface to yum is less polished than some > > - updates work if you work on them as groups vs particular apps. There > > are many promises online and in the maillists for particular tasks. I > > think there is even a starter pack on github somewhere. CFengine fits > > well into ITIL and managing IT - lots of IT - and it has it's own > > directory in /var too! ;) > > > > The RH world has worked with Cobbler plus Puppet - this is getting > > tighter with Puppet plus TheForman and Pulp - if I remember the > > roadmap. > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- (602) 791-8002 Android (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice ** HomeSmartInternational.com