The admin tools are also free. You just miss the server to server migration and solar features On May 8, 2011 12:58 AM, "Joseph Sinclair" wrote: > VMWare Player is free-as-in-beer, but it only *runs* the virtual machine. > You generally need some other tool to *create* the virtual machine, and for anything other than relatively simple use, the administrative controls in VMWare Player are very limited. > For more control, and the ability to create virtual machines most people end up purchasing VMWare Workstation, which is around $70 at retail last I checked. > > For advanced administrative options (particularly for complex requirements and/or large numbers of virtual machines on multiple servers), the VMWare enterprise tools are generally needed, and those get very costly. > > The primary advantage of VirtualBox is that it is both free-as-in-beer and free-as-in-freedom (the open source edition, virtualbox-ose), and the tools to manage it are included. > VirtualBox is great for running a few occasional VM's on a well-equipped home computer. > > For more advanced and complex environments (such as large corporate VM deployments), F/LOSS software is still playing a bit of catch-up with VMWare enterprise tools, but it's getting there. > For Hybrid (i.e. private/public) cloud deployments F/LOSS is actually way ahead of the proprietary alternatives, but that's also an area large enterprises are just starting to explore. > > On 05/08/2011 12:00 AM, Dan Lund wrote: >> Forgive me for being pedantic on this one, but... what do you mean by limited by the admin tools and custom hardware options? >> (I'm not being a butt about this, it just kinda folded into itself when you said that) >> >> --Dan >> >> On May 7, 2011, at 11:38 PM, Bryan O'Neal wrote: >> >>> Absolutely. It is limited only by the admin tools and custom hardware options. >>> >>> On 5/7/11, Dan Lund wrote: >>>> Does the free version of vmware have bridging? >>>> Last I used vmware outside of ESXi and vSphere was like 2005. >>>> >>>> --Dan >>>> >>>> On May 7, 2011, at 10:57 PM, Bryan O'Neal wrote: >>>> >>>>> Vmware is free and very effective. Just saying... >>>>> >>>>> On 5/7/11, Judd Pickell wrote: >>>>>> vbox does support bridging and is needed to solve the problem mentioned. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:50 PM, James Mcphee wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Probably set up IP as NAT, or internal. Does vbox do bridged IPs? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:39 PM, keith smith >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Setup vbox on XP loaded CentOS 5.6 set IP different than host. Can >>>>>>>> ping >>>>>>>> IP of vertual server from command line of self. Cannot ping from >>>>>>>> outside. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any help appreciated! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>>>> Keith Smith >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- On *Sat, 5/7/11, Stephen * wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Stephen >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: visualization question >>>>>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" < plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us> >>>>>>>> Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 4:06 PM >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> you can use either virtualbox or vmware and it will work, just set up >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> networking so that it has an IP on your physical network for simple >>>>>>>> access. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:00 PM, keith smith >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm running XP on a dell box and was wondering if I can install >>>>>>>> visualization on top of that, install CentOS, and have both running at >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> same time with the XP being a client and the CentOS being a LAMP >>>>>>>> server. >>>>>>>> I'd like to access the docroot crom the XP box. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is this possible? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>>>> Keith Smith >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - >>>>>>>> PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us< http://mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us> >>>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >>>>>>>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stephen >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - >>>>>>>> PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us< http://mc/compose?to=PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us> >>>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> James McPhee >>>>>>> jmcphe@gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from my mobile device >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my mobile device >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >