ok this really needs to go off list.. On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:27 PM, James Finstrom < jfinstrom@rhinoequipment.com> wrote: > LOL I am not the one off topic but I am at fault as everyone knows your > 256 shades of bat*** crazy and I made the mistake of pointing it out. I > assume you will take your meds and not hurt yourself or anyone else for my > mistake.... > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > >> James, >> >> I accept your apology for the PLUG. >> >> Have a better day. >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:51 PM, James Finstrom < >> jfinstrom@rhinoequipment.com> wrote: >> >>> I am sure It would have been acceptable as a straight relay of the job. >>> What was off topic was the personal commentary to the posters intentions and >>> motivations ie: the subject of this email >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:53 AM, keith smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't think this is a " Jr cabling/desktop monkey" job. The job post >>>>> says "...This position is 90% remote...". >>>>> >>>>> I think this is a start up and the owner has everyone work out of their >>>>> home to keep the cost down and they meet at his house. >>>>> >>>>> About 12 years ago I worked for a consulting company. I was W2 and >>>>> worked from home. He provided my computer, pay, limited benefits, and he >>>>> worked out of his home. By doing business this way he was able to keep the >>>>> cost of doing business to a minimum. I believe he started on a shoe string >>>>> and just stayed there. >>>>> >>>>> I believe this is an opportunity for someone to learn, grow, and get >>>>> some resume material. >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------ >>>>> Keith Smith >>>>> >>>>> --- On *Mon, 4/25/11, Kevin Fries * wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Kevin Fries >>>>> Subject: Re: Exploitation? >>>>> >>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>>> > >>>>> Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 7:31 AM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am not sure I would go directly to exploitation. Though I would say >>>>> they are trying to take advantage slightly. All the requirements are 1-3 >>>>> years. I would assume there is already in place a full admin, so this >>>>> person would likely be a Jr cabling/desktop monkey. Here in Denver that job >>>>> would go for 40-45k a year and our tech job market is much stronger than >>>>> yours. I lost my job the last day of September last year and started my job >>>>> search Oct 1... started a new job Nov 15th, and I was not the first to find >>>>> one... but that is Denver. Phoenix is a much tougher nut. So while the >>>>> rates are low, and probably not very realistic, I think exploitation is a >>>>> bit strong. I bet they find some nice kid 20-22 years old in the $15-$18 >>>>> range. >>>>> >>>>> Kevin >>>>> On Apr 25, 2011 7:54 AM, "Lisa Kachold" > >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > Anyone seen this: >>>>> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sad/2341174027.html >>>>> > >>>>> > --excerpt-- >>>>> > >>>>> > COMPANY is now hiring a Linux / Windows Systems Admin. This is a Jr. >>>>> Admin >>>>> > role. We are looking for a energetic person who has a basic >>>>> background in >>>>> > administration. This position is 90% remote but you must reside in >>>>> the >>>>> > Phoenix area due to weekly meetings. Please see below for skill set. >>>>> Please >>>>> > do not apply if you are a seasoned admin this is a Jr. positions. Pay >>>>> rate >>>>> > is $10 - $12.50 an hour. >>>>> > >>>>> > Windows Administration - 1 to 3 years >>>>> > Linux Administration - 1 to 3 years >>>>> > Networking - 1 to 3 years >>>>> > UNIX - is a plus >>>>> > Programing - is a plus >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > * Location: Phoenix Area >>>>> > * Compensation: $10 - $12.50 >>>>> > >>>>> > CRITICAL THOUGHT: >>>>> > >>>>> > 1) How can you require all the same responsibilities in a so-called >>>>> Junior >>>>> > Systems Admin of a regular admin as a rationalization to only pay >>>>> them >>>>> > $12-15 an hour? >>>>> > 2) This company is clearly not a .ORG - seems they have >>>>> mis-registered their >>>>> > domain name? >>>>> > 3) Don't even sec scan their website... >>>>> > >>>>> > But hey, if you want to work from home, this might be a good gig, you >>>>> can >>>>> > work 15 minutes on the hour! >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > (503) 754-4452 iPhone >>>>> > (623) 239-3392 Skype >>>>> > (623) 688-3392 Google Voice >>>>> > >>>>> > http://www.it-clowns.com >>>>> > >>>>> > "It took me many years but I have gained access to the root account >>>>> and have >>>>> > removed the user God." -Saros >>>>> >>>>> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yes, I think this could be a good gig. >>>> >>>> We don't have a job posts area anymore or I would have laid her there. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> (503) 754-4452 iPhone >>>> (623) 239-3392 Skype >>>> (623) 688-3392 Google Voice >>>> >>>> http://www.it-clowns.com >>>> >>>> "It took me many years but I have gained access to the root account and >>>> have removed the user God." -Saros >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> James Finstrom >>> Rhino Equipment Corp. >>> http://rhinoequipment.com >>> Phone: 1-877-RHINO-T1 >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/rhinoequipment >>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/RhinoEquipment >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> (503) 754-4452 iPhone >> (623) 239-3392 Skype >> (623) 688-3392 Google Voice >> >> http://www.it-clowns.com >> >> "It took me many years but I have gained access to the root account and >> have removed the user God." -Saros >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. Stephen