James, I accept your apology for the PLUG. Have a better day. On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:51 PM, James Finstrom < jfinstrom@rhinoequipment.com> wrote: > I am sure It would have been acceptable as a straight relay of the job. > What was off topic was the personal commentary to the posters intentions and > motivations ie: the subject of this email > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:53 AM, keith smith wrote: >> >>> >>> I don't think this is a " Jr cabling/desktop monkey" job. The job post >>> says "...This position is 90% remote...". >>> >>> I think this is a start up and the owner has everyone work out of their >>> home to keep the cost down and they meet at his house. >>> >>> About 12 years ago I worked for a consulting company. I was W2 and >>> worked from home. He provided my computer, pay, limited benefits, and he >>> worked out of his home. By doing business this way he was able to keep the >>> cost of doing business to a minimum. I believe he started on a shoe string >>> and just stayed there. >>> >>> I believe this is an opportunity for someone to learn, grow, and get some >>> resume material. >>> >>> ------------------------ >>> Keith Smith >>> >>> --- On *Mon, 4/25/11, Kevin Fries * wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Kevin Fries >>> Subject: Re: Exploitation? >>> >>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>> Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 7:31 AM >>> >>> >>> I am not sure I would go directly to exploitation. Though I would say >>> they are trying to take advantage slightly. All the requirements are 1-3 >>> years. I would assume there is already in place a full admin, so this >>> person would likely be a Jr cabling/desktop monkey. Here in Denver that job >>> would go for 40-45k a year and our tech job market is much stronger than >>> yours. I lost my job the last day of September last year and started my job >>> search Oct 1... started a new job Nov 15th, and I was not the first to find >>> one... but that is Denver. Phoenix is a much tougher nut. So while the >>> rates are low, and probably not very realistic, I think exploitation is a >>> bit strong. I bet they find some nice kid 20-22 years old in the $15-$18 >>> range. >>> >>> Kevin >>> On Apr 25, 2011 7:54 AM, "Lisa Kachold" > >>> wrote: >>> > Anyone seen this: >>> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sad/2341174027.html >>> > >>> > --excerpt-- >>> > >>> > COMPANY is now hiring a Linux / Windows Systems Admin. This is a Jr. >>> Admin >>> > role. We are looking for a energetic person who has a basic background >>> in >>> > administration. This position is 90% remote but you must reside in the >>> > Phoenix area due to weekly meetings. Please see below for skill set. >>> Please >>> > do not apply if you are a seasoned admin this is a Jr. positions. Pay >>> rate >>> > is $10 - $12.50 an hour. >>> > >>> > Windows Administration - 1 to 3 years >>> > Linux Administration - 1 to 3 years >>> > Networking - 1 to 3 years >>> > UNIX - is a plus >>> > Programing - is a plus >>> > >>> > >>> > * Location: Phoenix Area >>> > * Compensation: $10 - $12.50 >>> > >>> > CRITICAL THOUGHT: >>> > >>> > 1) How can you require all the same responsibilities in a so-called >>> Junior >>> > Systems Admin of a regular admin as a rationalization to only pay them >>> > $12-15 an hour? >>> > 2) This company is clearly not a .ORG - seems they have mis-registered >>> their >>> > domain name? >>> > 3) Don't even sec scan their website... >>> > >>> > But hey, if you want to work from home, this might be a good gig, you >>> can >>> > work 15 minutes on the hour! >>> > >>> > -- >>> > (503) 754-4452 iPhone >>> > (623) 239-3392 Skype >>> > (623) 688-3392 Google Voice >>> > >>> > http://www.it-clowns.com >>> > >>> > "It took me many years but I have gained access to the root account and >>> have >>> > removed the user God." -Saros >>> >>> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >>> >>> >>> Yes, I think this could be a good gig. >> >> We don't have a job posts area anymore or I would have laid her there. >> >> -- >> (503) 754-4452 iPhone >> (623) 239-3392 Skype >> (623) 688-3392 Google Voice >> >> http://www.it-clowns.com >> >> "It took me many years but I have gained access to the root account and >> have removed the user God." -Saros >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > James Finstrom > Rhino Equipment Corp. > http://rhinoequipment.com > Phone: 1-877-RHINO-T1 > Twitter: http://twitter.com/rhinoequipment > Facebook: http://facebook.com/RhinoEquipment > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- (503) 754-4452 iPhone (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice http://www.it-clowns.com "It took me many years but I have gained access to the root account and have removed the user God." -Saros