0) Evidently the 4.1 gcc could not build PerlMagick. Does anyone have an sarge or etch system with gcc > 4.2 who can build be the package in a directory, then tar.gz for me? 1) Debian sarge could have been updated to etch, and full apt-get package updates competed at some point in the past. However these sources appear to no longer be available? Does anyone have legacy sarge/etch systems and what do you do now that 3.1 sarge sources are no longer available from debian? -- (503) 754-4452 iPhone (623) 239-3392 Skype (623) 688-3392 Google Voice http://www.obnosis.com Senior Systems Administrator IncentiveLogic,com *Catch My MetaSploit & IP CAM Surveillance Presentations @ ABLEConf.com in April!*