It loads as an app and you can have it intercept out bound calls and route them via google voice. On Jan 22, 2011 3:00 PM, "Mark Phillips" wrote: > The Gizmo5 service is gone...Google acquired them in Thursday, November 12, > 2009. It is being rolled into google voice; not yet released. > > I am trying to understand how google voice can help me make calls over WiFi. > I don't really want another phone number. Is that the only way to connect my > phone for WiFi calling? Is there no way to diagnose why my network setup > won't allow WiFi calling from my phone? > > Thanks, > > Mark > > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > >> Hi Mark and Jordan, >> >> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Jordan Aberle wrote: >> >>> Have you tried this? >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/luwroy >>> >> >> This is HOT! >> >> Excerpt: >> >> The one big thing Google Voice doesn't offer, besides automated >> telemarketer taunting, is free voice-over-internet phone calling through >> your cellphone. On an Android phone, however, you can use the Gizmo5 >> service , Google Voice, and a free application to call >> anyone for free. >> >> A free, open-source, and unofficial Android app, Guava< http://gizmo5.com/guava.html?loc=guava>, >> gives any Android phone the ability to make and take calls over Gizmo5's >> VoIP service, connected through a Google Voice phone number. It works over >> Wi-Fi, 3G, or, for the daring, EDGE. You probably won't want to use Guava as >> your primary phone call manager, as the call quality varies with your >> connection and really works best over Wi-Fi. That said, if you're running up >> against your minute allotment, or find yourself in a basement-like spot with >> decent Wi-Fi but really bad cell coverage, Guava is a great little tool to >> have at your disposal. >> >> It's also worth noting that, depending on who your carrier is, making a >> VoIP call over an EDGE or 3G network may violate your contract's terms of >> service. A little "hard" data use now and then likely won't be noticed, but >> if you plan on using Guava heavily with your cellular data plan, you should >> check and read into what's tolerated and what's not before embarking on your >> bold data-only adventure. >> Mark, will you let us know how it goes? >> >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Mark Phillips >>> wrote: >>> > This is not totally off topic.....Android is based on Linux....;-) >>> > >>> > I need some advice from an expert in networks to give me some advice on >>> > getting my phone to make WiFi calls.... >>> > >>> > Anyway, I have a T-Mobile MyTouch 4g phone. It is supposed to be able to >>> > make calls over WiFi, which do not use an plan minutes...ie "free" >>> calls. I >>> > depend on this phone for my business, and I have a wireless network at >>> the >>> > office, so I don't have to pay for gillions of minutes. This worked >>> great >>> > when I had my Blackberrys - I could talk all day in the office and not >>> use >>> > any minutes. All of this is above board with T-Mobile - I actually pay a >>> low >>> > monthly fee for unlimited WiFi calling. >>> > >>> > Anyway, much to my chagrin, I discovered yesterday that I had gone way >>> over >>> > my plan minutes. I checked with T-Mobile, and none of my calls had gone >>> over >>> > WiFi. The agent refunded all the charges for the over-plan minutes and >>> gave >>> > me extra minutes to get through the rest of the month. She sent me to >>> > technical support, and we could not get my phone to make calls over my >>> WiFi >>> > network. Even though the phone says I am connected to WiFi. So, I went >>> to >>> > the T-Mobile corporate store in Fashion Square, and the manager (she has >>> the >>> > same phone) and I tried to connect to the mall WiFi, and we could >>> connect to >>> > the mall WiFi, but could not make WiFi calls. Same error - could not >>> connect >>> > to T-Mobile network. I then tried to make a WiFi call at Starbucks, and >>> it >>> > worked! It also worked at Barnes and Noble after I agreed to the free >>> > Internet terms and services (didn't work before then). >>> > >>> > I googled for issues with WiFi calls with this phone, and found a lot of >>> > them. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. The error message >>> that >>> > pops up says the phone cannot connect to the T-Mobile network. T-Mobile >>> is >>> > aware of the issue, but does not have a fix or ETA for one. >>> > >>> > One posting had this to say about the WiFi calling..... >>> > >>> > The WiFi Calling app is Kineto's WiFi Calling app branded for T-Mobile. >>> The >>> > WiFi Calling app is an implementation of 3GPP GAN, which allows >>> something on >>> > the Internet to get into a cellular network and do stuff (in this case, >>> make >>> > and receive calls).If you care to pull up the most recent version of the >>> > spec, linked above, you'll find that "registering" (ie, logging into >>> home >>> > base) involves these steps (get a glass of warm milk and see 8.4.1.6) >>> ... >>> > >>> > 1) Performing a DNS query to get the address of thing it's trying to >>> connect >>> > to (if necessary) >>> > >>> > 2) Setting up an IPSec tunnel to thing resolved in step 1 (called a >>> SEGW) >>> > >>> > 3) Resolving and connecting to (using TCP over the tunnel setup in step >>> 2) >>> > yet another thing called a GANC >>> > >>> > 4) Sending the GANC a "register request", which includes your phone's >>> IMSI, >>> > information about the cell you're currently connected to, or last >>> connected >>> > to if no longer connected, and other stuff >>> >> >> This is a capacity and QoS issue on the other side. Get another app. >> >> >>> >>> > 5) Getting back a response that the GANC is happy with you and all is >>> well >>> > >>> > I started to think that perhaps I have a router issue on my network. I >>> have >>> > a Linksys WRT54G wireless access point going through a BEFSX-41 Linksys >>> > router to my cable modem. I checked the routers, and IPsec is enabled >>> for >>> > both. The WRT54G uses MAC filter to allow only certain devices to >>> connect, >>> > and WPA Personal, AES algorithm, and a shared key of 64 characters in >>> it. >>> > The WRT54G says I am connected to the phone when I enable WiFi on the >>> phone. >>> > >>> > This is a long way to get to my question...thanks for staying with me. >>> is >>> > there a way to look at what the phone is doing when I try to enable WiFi >>> > calling to see where it fails? A wireless sniffer?? Does any of the >>> above >>> > give you network gurus an idea of what may be wrong and if it could be >>> in >>> > issue with my router? >>> > >>> > Thanks for any help you can provide....I would hate to go back to a >>> > Blackberry as I really like Android now! >>> > >>> > Mark >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> (503) 754-4452 >> (623) 688-3392 >> >> http://www.obnosis.com >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>