Best I can tell from google research to tunnel port 5050 data for the purpose of getting empathy to work I would type: netcat -L port:host:hostport in my case it would be: netcat -L 5050:?:? how would I figure out the last two variables? I was told by Ed to see what is listening to 5050 after I am set up.... WAIT! This is the command I was told to issue: mike@mike-desktop:~$ netstat -ta Active Internet connections (servers and established) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State tcp 0 0 localhost:ipp *:* LISTEN tcp 0 0 mike-desktop.loca:56160 nuq04s01-in-f83.1:https TIME_WAIT tcp 0 0 mike-desktop.loca:33693 mail.google.com:https ESTABLISHED tcp 0 0 mike-desktop.loca:34311 webcs207.msg.sp1.y:mmcc ESTABLISHED tcp 0 0 mike-desktop.loca:50208 mail.google.com:https ESTABLISHED tcp6 0 0 localhost:ipp [::]:* LISTEN mike@mike-desktop:~$ and it seems to me that I would type : netcat -L 5050:localhost:? I am lost again. Would it possibly be 'ipp'? -- :-)~MIKE~(-: