Yah, I know 8Dec2010 is the exception to Fourth Wednesdays:

> Presenter: Mr. John Pringle -- Specific agenda topics coming soon!
> Topics: Various topics ranging form beginner's to advanced, user to administrator.
> When: Fourth Wednesday of each month at 7:00PM
> Where: DeVry University / Keller Graduate School of Management - 
> MAP: 6751 N Sunset Blvd, Glendale, AZ

  I've been very tempted to visit one of these "Fourth Wednesday" Glendale meetings.
I just don't consider myself a presenter.  That, plus I need almost a weeks
advance planning for transportation.  Months slip by...
Lemme see how Sal's Tuscan Grill receives me first.

  Also, as a warning, M$ really locks down their end user license, so
never grub a Windows system that can't be re-installed like new from CD.
  "LOL"s in the MBR can be fun too.  I'll prolly be doing the assembly (from Lisa)
onto a box that requires a grub boot-floppy.  It's MBR is therfore irrelevant.

  (-:  Chas.M.  :-)

Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:22:35 -0700
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
From: L.tuttle@cox.net
Subject: Re: Westside Stammtisch Details





Uh, you could also show it off at the next Westside PLUG meeting on Dec 8
-- yes, a one-time date change to allow for two holidays.......we will
return to normalcy in January.


At 06:16 PM 11/16/2010, you wrote:

Hiya,

  I just want to verify location and time of the next

Westside Avondale/Goodyear informal "Stammtisch" meet.

"Sal's Tusan Grill" on McDowell at 7:00 pm this Thursday the
18th?

Or is that "Tuscan"...  Or is that Wednesday the
17th?

The PLUG website needs work.  It's calendar thinks today is the
17th.

I think today is the 16th (in the PM).


Multi-Boot vs. VM:

  There's been some talk about using Win XP in Linux VM emulation


for developing/debugging web pages.  Specifically, for that buggy M$
I.E.  

This method may be OK when using XP's Internet Explorer, 

but what will you do when M$ upgrades Vista and Seven but not XP?

Vista and Seven do not allow running in VM (by E.U.L.A. license).

Microsoft ain't stupid.  XP is about ready for the upgrade
cascade.

  Lately, the "ntfsresize" utility has been wonderous with
NTFS partitions.

Instead of VM, I do not hesitate to recommend a "grub"
multi-boot 

(using a newer M$ system) to avoid when XP's I.E. becomes 

yet another software-war casualty.

  I recently aquired an 80Gb laptop and have set it up as
multi-boot.

Currently it's a work-in-progress, but XP and Fedora 12 are so far

happy together, with room for Win98 and a second major Linux
distro.


Stammtisch:

  I'd love to show it off, and discuss grub's capabilities at the
meet.

So, where and when is the next Westside Stammtisch? 
Really.


  (-:  Chas.M.  :-)

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