I agree that most of the problems with NM are due to old manual configurations, but NM is actually more configurable than the old ifup/down system if you know what you are doing. NM is configed via dbus messages, and therefore is not for anyone but experts. Fortunately, if you trust in the force Luke, it almost always does the right thing, and when it doesn't a simple hardware upgrade has always fixed it for me (i.e. upgrade yor network card, they are cheap) Kevin On Aug 18, 2010 9:46 AM, "Dazed_75" wrote: Yes, that would be true for any software whose goal is to avoid the need for manual control. In my experience, almost all problems with Network Manager have been because someone is attempting to use the old methods of manual control. Certainly people do have problems with it, but for most systems I have dealt with (and that is a lot) it seems to be pretty flawless. That said, my first experience with it years ago was horrible until I found a forum entry that told me to delete all the old manual control stuff from a certain configuration file. From that day forward that system was fine through a number of releases. I also used that technique to solve problems for several other people back then. That should not be your problem since yours was a new install. More likely is an updated driver being used that lost some kind of support for older hardware. That seems to be not uncommon unfortunately. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Stephen wrote: > > All the weird networkin... -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, t... --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss