If you are asking for proof that the government is watching everyone of us just take a look at the USA PATRIOT Act.  It give authority to wire tap and other surveillance activities with much less restriction.  It allows authorities to circumvent the constitution and hold prisoners incommunicado while violating their 6th and 14th Amendments right to due process.  Clearly unconstitutional.  Here is an example of how the law is being abused Lundeby said the USA Patriot Act stripped her son of his due process rights. "We have no rights under the Patriot Act to even defend them, because the Patriot Act basically supersedes the Constitution," she said. "It wasn't intended to drag your barely 16-year-old, 120-pound son out in the middle of the night on a charge that we can't even defend." http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/5049867/ http://www.reformthepatriotact.org/ ------------------------ Keith Smith --- On Thu, 8/12/10, R P Herrold wrote: From: R P Herrold Subject: Re: Kaseya Agents & You To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 9:19 AM On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Lisa Kachold wrote: > It can be used for malicious reasons. so can almost any tool As you later note: > It is not cheap.  Free applications and online tools exist to do the samething. drop in a VNC server, pre-key it, and hide it from the process table listing, and one is home in a Windows environment; munge a kernel module, and one can attain the same effect in Linux. Apple has similar in OS/X ... back to the lead post ... > It is currently being used by NSA and government surveillance of citizens of interest, or it can be used for technical support purposes. A strong assertion.  A search turns up just another vendor, in the marketing hunt trying to sell to the Homeland Security 'garrison state'     http://www.kaseya.com/ with a FIPS-140-2 certification.  They are co-marketing with Microsoft     http://www.microsoft.com/sbs/en/us/software-solutions.aspx and they seem to advert having sold to the U S Air Force Conspicuously absent from a google search is non 'tinfoil hat' evidence beyond supposition and capabilities, and actually showing improper use by a federal agency Please, prove me wrong with URLs I missed -- Russ herrold --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss