As much as David would like to depict these groups equivalent to The Boy Scouts of America or similar organizations, it should be made abundantly clear what constitutes their politics. Not only do these groups freely demonstrate and organize here, but *they are supported and funded by our STATE UNIVERSITIES*. http://www.public.asu.edu/~mechanet/ Wake up and smell the coffee. -jmz On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:03 AM, keith smith wrote: > They teach hate and AZTLAN. They teach that this is their land - Mexico. > That is unAmerican and if I might say so, racist. What does La Raza stand > for? The Race! > > If I as a white man was to start a group called "The Race" or something > similar like the "Aryan Nation" which I denounce right here right now, I > would be labeled a racist. > > Watch this video and tell me La Raza is not a problem - > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGqPo5ofk0s > > Tell me we are not traveling full speed towards a race war? > > Instead of embracing the American dream these groups poison young minds > which will ultimately destroy lives. > > This is America! I'm tired of the bellyaching and all the "poor me" > stuff. This is the land of opportunity. Don't expect a handout and don't > expect me to pay our bills. Get up off your lazy behind and make something > happen. > > I worked midnight shift as a police officer so I could attend college > during the day. It was hard but that is what it takes. You wants something > don't look to the government look to your God and your Savior and get out > and pay the price. > > This is America! If you do not like it here get out. You are dead weight > and you are holding those of us of who what REAL change, back. Beleive me > you have not experienced anything like a red blooded American that feels he > is being wronged. We will right what is wrong with this country and that > includes those who have come here illegally. I do not stand alone. The > surveys say 50 - 70% of America is behind Arizona. There is a battle line > being drawn. What side will you be on? > > If you are on the side of La Raza you will loose. This is America. If you > fly the Mexican flag expect trouble. > > As a Christian man I believe I am to live in peace with you as much as you > will allow. > > My Bible says in Romans 12: 8 "If it is possible, as far as it depends on > you, live at peace with everyone.". That says it is up to you. I want > peace and revival in this land. If you however want trouble that is on your > head, and that is what you will get. > > > > > ------------------------ > Keith Smith > > --- On *Mon, 5/17/10, David * wrote: > > > From: David > > Subject: Re: ditching Apple products due to boycotts? > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 9:56 PM > > > Why? Serious inquiry. From my brief reading, they don't do anything many > other political groups do. > > David > > "I find your lack of faith disturbing." > --Darth Vader > > > > On May 17, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > > > > > > > David, > > > > Will you condemn and denounce the political groups La Raza and MEChA > right now? > > > > -jmz > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:42 PM, David > > wrote: > > Josh, I don't know you from Adam, but FU for calling me unAmerican. > > > > Yes, a personal attack. Just as the comment I'm referring to is. > > > > David > > "I find your lack of faith disturbing." > > --Darth Vader > > > > > > > > On May 17, 2010, at 9:37 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > > > > > > > > Tuna, > > > > > > We were discussing macro economic trends that effect all linux > developers as well as issues pertaining to Arizona and Linux. Just because > some deem the issue of illegal aliens to be out of bounds does not mean we > terminate the discussion whenever we arrive at the subject. Of course some > people don't like it being discussed. Those are the people who want to > prevent action from being taken. There are some of these people on this > thread. How can we discuss anything these days without addressing *what is > right in front of our faces every day*!? > > > > > > The fact is everyone, this country is in deep doo doo. It's not a > laughing matter. Anyone who was at the Sharpton rally will tell you that > these people are violent and they most certainly are un-american. Our state > is broke, as are many other states. Our ability to maintain our technology > sector will rely heavily on our ability to stabilize ourselves politically. > This means *your job*. It might even be an opportunity to position > ourselves profitably relative to California. Discussion is absolutely > critical to moving in the right direction. Don't let people blow the issue > out of proportion or try to turn it into some racial battleground. > > > > > > That being said, you may now return to complaining about COX > service or whatever other stuff is 'on topic'. > > > > > > -jmz > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Tuna > > wrote: > > > /| _______ > > > / | __-- --__ |\ > > > | \_-- --_ / | > > > | ) \/ | > > > \__/ / > > > ) ________________,-` > > > / 0 .. 0 | > > > / /| | , > > > \ ,__ / | \/ | > > > \ ```````````````````) > > > \______________________/ > > > ILLEGAL ALIEN IS ILLEGAL > > > > > > I created this ascii art myself, and hereby release it into the public > domain. > > > > > > Congrats, Zeidner. > > > > > > Excerpts from Joshua Zeidner's message of Sun May 16 12:54:33 -0700 > 2010: > > > > Hello PLUG, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am wondering if anyone is switching off Apple products due to the > recent > > > > Los Angeles boycott of Arizona: > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/05/12/20100512los-angeles-boycott-vo > > > > te-over-arizona-immigration-law12-ON.html > > > > > > > > < > http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/05/12/20100512los-angeles-boycott-v > > > > ote-over-arizona-immigration-law12-ON.html> > > > > Hopefully > > > > they will choose Linux. > > > > > > > > > > > > -jmz > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > --