Good info Alan. Thanks I did hear the CDMAized Nexus One is supposed to hit Sprint on Mar 23. But I suspect those two reports may be bogus since I've seen no follow-up. I also saw a report that buying the Nexus One unlocked plus monthly usage ended up costing less than buying the T-Mobile subsidized one and paying the freight for the contract for the same service. On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Alan Dayley wrote: > I have a myTouch since November. I like it, though it is laggy > sometimes, like a computer using the swap file too much. If I were to > buy now, I'd get a Nexus One. > > As you your requirements... > > - Most of your list is not possible on any Android phone unless you > replace the software with some other build. There are many out there > and probably can do what you want but you will then be outside the > boundaries of support from T-Mobile. For you and many here on this > list this is not a big problem. Just thought you should know the > limitation. > > -- As far as I know, you will have to replace the OS build in order to > get the following features: > > . bluetooth tethering > > . ssh out > > . root access > > . play ogg-vorbis > > . ssh in across cell network > > . USB tethering > > . tetherable via wifi > > - As far as I know you will not get any of the following features with > any of the Android phones currently available: > > . tether and call at the same time > > . on phone internet connection and call at the same time > > . phone to phone communication via bluetooth > > . phone to phone communication via wifi > > . can use external display ( monitor and/or TV ) > > - For the feature "contact, etc. syncing w/ GNU/Linux" I don't know > what to answer. All Android phones sync contacts, calendar, email > with your Google account. So if your GNU/Linux contact management can > sync with your Google accounts, it is also syncing with your phone. > > - The phone comes with three email apps: > -- GMail is for your, um, GMail. > -- Mail is for some general email account somewhere so you can use > this one for your own servers. > -- Work Email will connect to a (ugh) Exchange server and get email that > way. > -- I have several email accounts that feed to my GMail account so I > can do them all in the GMail app. > > - The Motorola models are "TVO-ized." They check all binaries for a > specific signature. No signature, the binary will not run. This > means only official builds of OS can be used on those phones. In > other words, don't get one from Motorola if you want to change the > software. I have friends with the Motorola Cliq who love the phone > except that they can only update it via official releases, which are > slow coming. > > Alan > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:41 PM, der.hans wrote: > > moin moin, > > > > I need to get new phones. Which of the t-mobile android phones best meet > > the following requirements? > > > > Required features: > > . bluetooth tethering > > . ability to turn off GPS if one is available > > . ssh out > > . bluetooth > > . connect to my own mail servers > > . root access > > . play ogg-vorbis > > . contact, etc. syncing w/ GNU/Linux > > > > Desired features: > > . tether and call at the same time > > . on phone internet connection and call at the same time > > . ssh in across cell network > > . USB tethering > > . fully functional while charging > > . root access w/o jailbreaking > > . wifi > > . tetherable via wifi > > . phone to phone communication via bluetooth > > . phone to phone communication via wifi > > . GPS > > . camera and video > > . external storage card, prefer sdmc > > . can use external display ( monitor and/or TV ) > > > > Any features that I forgot? > > > > t-mobile has Motorola CLIQ, Samsung Behold II, t-mobile myTouch and G1. > > Which is the better phone? I will be trying to do this w/o a contract, so > > deals don't matter and all phones appears to be almost equally expensive. > > I am interested in consumer ready, easy to use as this one is for my > wife. > > > > What services/features are included in the service plan? If not, what is > > the add on cost? > > > > . cell phone calling? > > . internet access ( not just web )? > > . tethering? > > . gps? > > > > I still haven't completely decided whether I will go with the Nexxus One > > or N900 for my own use. Will the N900 work with t-mobile? I believe it > > will. > > > > I could consider ATT if I go with the N900 and it works well with ATT, > but > > as I understand it the Nexxus One currently will not work fully with ATT. > > > > Does t-mobile carry a Linux-based, large numbered, low-cost phone? This > > one just needs to be able to make and receive calls on the family plan. > > Receiving text messages on the family plan would also be good. > > > > ciao, > > > > der.hans > > -- > > # http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes http://www.TwoGeekTechs.com/ > > # Director of Engineering, FonWallet Transaction Solutions, Inc. > > # Boredom is self-inflicted...der.hans > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. 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