Amen to that brother! Mark On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Dazed_75 wrote: > ROFL! Linux Magazine has an article > http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7683/1.html about managing linux disks with > doing everything in cli and using fdisk to set up partitions. Not really > what you are doing but it reminds me that sometimes the hard core folks > never see the easy way for the rest of the folks to do some things. They > are so accustomed to doing thing their way that to them it is easiest. To > some of the rest of us the old ways are just the easiest way to screw up. > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Mark Phillips < > mark@phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote: > >> Eric, >> >> When I tried setup (hd1) grub barfed. Anyway, I ran Knoppix and performed >> a grub-install and all is good with the world now. I can boot the machine >> with no problems. >> >> Many thanks to everyone who chipped in with suggestions. It has been >> fun......err sort of. Anyway, to recap what to do in the future: >> >> 1. Move the drives around any which way you please. Add drives, remove >> drives, whatever. >> 2. boot with KNoppix >> 3. Knoppix will find your boot partition, or use fdisk -l. >> 4. mount the boot partition rw >> 5. run grub-install >> 6. reboot. >> >> Thanks to all again! >> >> Mark >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: >> >>> Mark Phillips wrote: >>> > Kitepilot, >>> > >>> > Well, I did this.... >>> > grub >>> > root(hd1,4) - got an appropriate message like "found something" >>> > setup(hd1,4) -- got a bunch of messages that looked right - basically >>> >>> setup installed grub on a partition, not the mbr of the drive. You >>> should have "setup(hd1)" to make it update the mbr of the drive. >>> >>> You should be able to redo this from just about any live cd. Just make >>> sure you use the proper values for the configuration as it is currently >>> running. >>> >>> > confirming it found everything >>> > quit >>> > >>> > Initially, I tried root(hd1,0) and got an error message; also setup >>> > (hd1) and got an error message. BTW root(hd1) also returns an error >>> > message. The commands above were the only ones that worked without >>> errors. >>> > >>> > I also change my fstab file as shown earlier (basically changed hdb to >>> > hda). And the menu.lst was changed appropirately - hdb to hda as I >>> > posted earlier. >>> > >>> > Moved the disk from ide2 to ide1, and installed the new blank disk in >>> ide2. >>> > >>> > Booted up, and no boot, just a black screen. I made sure the jumpers >>> > were set for master on ide1 and slave on ide2. ide1 has the linux drive >>> > and ide2 has the new blank drive. >>> > >>> > Checked the bios to see if both drives are recognized, and they are, >>> and >>> > in the right spots as well. >>> > >>> > Currently downloading most recent knoppix image to burn a cd and see >>> > what's up. Any suggestions would be appreciated. >>> > >>> > Mark >>> > >>> > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 9:06 AM, kitepilot@kitepilot.com >>> > >> > > wrote: >>> > >>> > > grub >>> > > root (hd1,0) >>> > > root (hd1) >>> > NO >>> > >>> > grub >>> > root (hd?,?) >>> > setup (hd?) >>> > ^^^^^ >>> > Sorry... >>> > ET >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Mark Phillips writes: >>> > >>> > > kitepilot, >>> > > >>> > > Thanks for the clarification. >>> > > >>> > > Sorry to be such a newbie.....You wrote >>> > > grub >>> > > root (hd1,0) >>> > > root (hd1) >>> > > It should answer that it found the stages, verify that there are >>> > no errors. >>> > > quit >>> > > >>> > > Should it be >>> > > grub >>> > > root (hd1,4) >>> > > root (hd1) >>> > > It should answer that it found the stages, verify that there are >>> > no errors. >>> > > quit >>> > > >>> > > because "find /boot/grub/stage1" returns (hd1,4) and not >>> (hd1,0)? Or, >>> > > perhaps it doesn't matter, and grub will do the right thing when >>> > I use >>> > > (hd1,0)? >>> > > >>> > > Thanks! >>> > > >>> > > Mark >>> > > >>> > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 7:06 AM, kitepilot@kitepilot.com >>> > < >>> > > kitepilot@kitepilot.com > >>> wrote: >>> > > >>> > >> >> is there perhaps, a typo? >>> > >> No, it's not a typo! >>> > >> The drive is still hd1 until you pull the old one. >>> > >> Grub doesn't know about which drive, the BIOS tell it to. >>> > >> Once you pull the M$ drive and flip the cables, GRUB will see >>> it >>> > as hd0. >>> > >> ET >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> Mark Phillips writes: >>> > >> >>> > >> > I understand the flow....shouldn't I tell grub somehow that >>> > the new boot >>> > >> > drive is hd0,0? In your steps below, is there perhaps, a >>> typo? >>> > >> > >>> > >> > Thanks! >>> > >> > >>> > >> > Mark >>> > >> > >>> > >> > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:58 PM, kitepilot@kitepilot.com >>> > < >>> > >> > kitepilot@kitepilot.com > >>> wrote: >>> > >> > >>> > >> >> >> 1. How do I change grub on the Linux drive (hdb) to say >>> > "the ... >>> > >> >> If you are running GRUB 0.XX (GRUB 1.XX is different): >>> > >> >> Boot your Debian machine and as root run: >>> > >> >> grub >>> > >> >> root (hd1,0) >>> > >> >> root (hd1) >>> > >> >> It should answer that it found the stages, verify that there >>> > are no >>> > >> errors. >>> > >> >> quit >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> Then take a backup of /boot/grub/menu.lst and and make sure >>> that >>> > >> everything >>> > >> >> is either using UUID(s) or labels or every reference to >>> hd1,0 is >>> > >> converted >>> > >> >> to hd0,0 >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> Verify your /etc/fstab likewise. >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> > 2. Do I move the second drive to the first ide port, or >>> > leave it as >>> > >> ... >>> > >> >> Shutdown, pull the cable from the windoze drive and plug it >>> > to Linux >>> > >> drive. >>> > >> >> Turn on and pray... :) >>> > >> >> Free advice, you can't sue me ;-) >>> > >> >> YMMV >>> > >> >> ET >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> Mark Phillips writes: >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> > I have two ide drives in one machine - drive 1 is a >>> Windows >>> > drive and >>> > >> >> drive >>> > >> >> > 2 is a Linux drive. Using grub, I can boot into either >>> > windows or >>> > >> debian. >>> > >> >> I >>> > >> >> > want to remove the windows drive and replace it with a >>> > larger, blank >>> > >> >> drive >>> > >> >> > for backup storage. I have a feeling if I just remove the >>> > first drive >>> > >> and >>> > >> >> > put the new one there, the machine will not boot, since >>> the >>> > MBR is >>> > >> >> probably >>> > >> >> > on the first drive (it came with the machine, and I just >>> > added the >>> > >> second >>> > >> >> > drive for Linux). My questions: >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > 1. How do I change grub on the Linux drive (hdb) to say >>> > "the windows >>> > >> >> drive >>> > >> >> > is dead, boot here instead, long live linux"? >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > 2. Do I move the second drive to the first ide port, or >>> > leave it as >>> > >> the >>> > >> >> > second ide drive and put the new drive in the fist ide >>> port? >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > Thanks! >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > Mark >>> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >>> > >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - >>> > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > >>> > >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > >> >> >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >> >> >>> > >> --------------------------------------------------- >>> > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - >>> > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > >>> > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >> >>> > --------------------------------------------------- >>> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > >>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -Eric 'shubes' >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > Dazed_75 a.k.a. 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