Here goes - the output of ps -aux USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND root 1 0.0 0.1 2116 616 ? Ss Jan12 0:06 init [2] root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [kthreadd] root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [migration/0] root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:05 [ksoftirqd/0] root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:10 [watchdog/0] root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:11 [events/0] root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [khelper] root 19 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [xenwatch] root 20 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [xenbus] root 30 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [migration/1] root 31 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:04 [ksoftirqd/1] root 32 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [watchdog/1] root 33 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:07 [events/1] root 34 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [migration/2] root 35 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:13 [ksoftirqd/2] root 36 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:01 [watchdog/2] root 37 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:06 [events/2] root 38 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [migration/3] root 39 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:08 [ksoftirqd/3] root 40 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:01 [watchdog/3] root 41 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:12 [events/3] root 68 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [kblockd/0] root 69 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [kblockd/1] root 70 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [kblockd/2] root 71 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [kblockd/3] root 81 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [kseriod] root 128 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Jan12 0:00 [pdflush] root 129 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Jan12 0:03 [pdflush] root 130 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [kswapd0] root 131 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [aio/0] root 132 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [aio/1] root 133 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [aio/2] root 134 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [aio/3] root 257 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [net_accel/0] root 258 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [net_accel/1] root 259 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [net_accel/2] root 260 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:00 [net_accel/3] root 675 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Jan12 0:03 [kjournald] root 752 0.0 0.1 2304 488 ? S wrote: > Feel free to post the output of: > > ps aux > > I'm sure you're running junk you don't need. > Junk that is eating memory and cycles. > ET > > PS: More stupid unrelated wisdom: > The difference between the Mafia and the IRS, > is that the Mafia has a code of honor. > (I'm about to print that on T-shirt...) > > > > > > Mark Phillips writes: > > > Thanks for the explanation! We don't need t hold a car wash (bad timing > this > > week anyway....;-)) to raise the money for the next larger linode....just > > pass the collection jar around for the $50. > > > > Cheers! > > > > Mark > > > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Joseph Sinclair < > plug-discussion@stcaz.net > >> wrote: > > > >> According to the free -t line, you have around 80M of "free" RAM on the > >> machine. If money is tight then you're fine with the amount of RAM you > have. > >> If the system starts to slow down in a few months you may want to > >> re-investigate. > >> > >> BTW, free reports numbers in "k", and the free column is the amount of > >> memory actually unused after adjustments, so the "-/+ buffers/cache" > line > >> shows 81388 K free for program use. > >> > >> Mark Phillips wrote: > >> > LOL.....Thanks to everyone for helping me do a better job of phrasing > my > >> > question....;-) and for your good suggestions. > >> > > >> > I agree, one can always use more > >> > (clean) air > >> > FOOD > >> > BEER (wine for some) > >> > RAM, CPU,s, (but maybe not ROM) > >> > > >> > I should have said...."Given a miniscule budget with no extra cash > laying > >> > around (other than in my pocket or the newspaper class teacher's > pocket), > >> I > >> > am faced with two options to spend money. > >> > A - $50/year for an additional 2GB of disk space, which is enough for > the > >> > next year or so, and we need that disk space for articles and photos. > >> > B - $109/year for 8GB of additional disk space (don't need all that > now, > >> but > >> > will grow into it), 180 MB of RAM (do I really need it?) and > additional > >> > bandwidth that I don't need." > >> > Both amounts are due up front - ie discounted over the normal monthly > >> cost > >> > for up front payment and non-profit status. > >> > > >> > The minimum RAM requirement (from the documentation) for a Plone site > is > >> > 512MB. But I have run many small sites on less and they work just > fine. > >> This > >> > one is a case in point. > >> > > >> > The results of free -t: > >> > > >> > total used free shared buffers > cached > >> > Mem: 368836 363408 5428 0 24248 > 51712 > >> > -/+ buffers/cache: 287448 81388 > >> > Swap: 524280 47180 477100 > >> > Total: 893116 410588 482528 > >> > > >> > Can someone help me interpret these numbers? Based on "The "-/+ > >> > buffers/cache:" line will tell you how much memory the system is > >> > taking because nobody else is using it." I would conclude that the OS > (ie > >> > the "system") as opposed to the application is using most of the > memory > >> > because it can, so the app is not being starved. But I can argue the > >> other > >> > way as well, so I am a little lost. > >> > > >> > For what it is worth, Plone/Zope are Python beasts. Is there a way to > see > >> if > >> > any of the application is in swap versus RAM? The system does not have > a > >> > noticeable lag when pages are accessed - it is not instantaneous, but > >> faster > >> > than my Google apps account. ;-) > >> > > >> > Thanks! > >> > > >> > Mark > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:54 AM, kitepilot@kitepilot.com < > >> > kitepilot@kitepilot.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Do I need more air? > >> >> Do I need more FOOD? > >> >> Do I need MORE BEER!!! > >> >> > >> >> Give more, MORE, MOOOREEEE!!!! > >> >> Gawd, I need more Prozac too... :) > >> >> > >> >> You will never have too much memory, or extrapolating to aviation: > >> >> The only time I have too much fuel is when the airplane is on fire... > >> ;-) > >> >> > >> >> top alone will only hand you part of the picture. > >> >> Try: > >> >> free -t > >> >> Look at the line: > >> >> -/+ buffers/cache: XXXX > >> >> > >> >> Memory is used by buffers that are there only for efficiency, but > will > >> be > >> >> returned to the system on demand. Sometimes very little used stuff > will > >> go > >> >> to swap, and adding memory will not really help anything (and it > won't > >> hurt > >> >> anything either, other than your checkbook) > >> >> > >> >> The "-/+ buffers/cache:" line will tell you how much memory the > system > >> is > >> >> taking because nobody else is using it. > >> >> YMMV... > >> >> ET > >> >> > >> >> PS: And that "airplane on fire" wisdom is not always true, but works > for > >> >> novice pilots... > >> >> Or: > >> >> My job is not to teach how to fly. > >> >> My job is to help you stay alive while you learn... :) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Mark Phillips writes: > >> >> > >> >>> I have a Zope/Plone 2.5 web site running on Debian on a Linode > virtual > >> >> host. > >> >>> It has grown over the last few years, and now I need to add some > more > >> >> disk > >> >>> space. The site is for a school newspaper, so from August - June, > >> >> students > >> >>> add news articles and photos. > >> >>> > >> >>> I was also looking at the output of top, and perhaps I need more RAM > as > >> >>> well? Top shows I have only 5 MB free out of 368 MB of total RAM, > but I > >> >> am > >> >>> only using 9% of my swap, so perhaps I don't need more RAM. The site > >> does > >> >>> not seem slow. > >> >>> > >> >>> Tasks: 69 total, 1 running, 68 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie > >> >>> Cpu(s): 0.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni,100.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, > 0.0%si, > >> >>> 0.0%st > >> >>> Mem: 368836k total, 363364k used, 5472k free, 8316k > >> buffers > >> >>> Swap: 524280k total, 46716k used, 477564k free, 67436k > cached > >> >>> > >> >>> Thanks for any suggestions you may have. > >> >>> > >> >>> Mark > >> >> --------------------------------------------------- > >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > > >> > --------------------------------------------------- > >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >