Thanks for the explanation! We don't need t hold a car wash (bad timing this week anyway....;-)) to raise the money for the next larger linode....just pass the collection jar around for the $50. Cheers! Mark On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Joseph Sinclair wrote: > According to the free -t line, you have around 80M of "free" RAM on the > machine. If money is tight then you're fine with the amount of RAM you have. > If the system starts to slow down in a few months you may want to > re-investigate. > > BTW, free reports numbers in "k", and the free column is the amount of > memory actually unused after adjustments, so the "-/+ buffers/cache" line > shows 81388 K free for program use. > > Mark Phillips wrote: > > LOL.....Thanks to everyone for helping me do a better job of phrasing my > > question....;-) and for your good suggestions. > > > > I agree, one can always use more > > (clean) air > > FOOD > > BEER (wine for some) > > RAM, CPU,s, (but maybe not ROM) > > > > I should have said...."Given a miniscule budget with no extra cash laying > > around (other than in my pocket or the newspaper class teacher's pocket), > I > > am faced with two options to spend money. > > A - $50/year for an additional 2GB of disk space, which is enough for the > > next year or so, and we need that disk space for articles and photos. > > B - $109/year for 8GB of additional disk space (don't need all that now, > but > > will grow into it), 180 MB of RAM (do I really need it?) and additional > > bandwidth that I don't need." > > Both amounts are due up front - ie discounted over the normal monthly > cost > > for up front payment and non-profit status. > > > > The minimum RAM requirement (from the documentation) for a Plone site is > > 512MB. But I have run many small sites on less and they work just fine. > This > > one is a case in point. > > > > The results of free -t: > > > > total used free shared buffers cached > > Mem: 368836 363408 5428 0 24248 51712 > > -/+ buffers/cache: 287448 81388 > > Swap: 524280 47180 477100 > > Total: 893116 410588 482528 > > > > Can someone help me interpret these numbers? Based on "The "-/+ > > buffers/cache:" line will tell you how much memory the system is > > taking because nobody else is using it." I would conclude that the OS (ie > > the "system") as opposed to the application is using most of the memory > > because it can, so the app is not being starved. But I can argue the > other > > way as well, so I am a little lost. > > > > For what it is worth, Plone/Zope are Python beasts. Is there a way to see > if > > any of the application is in swap versus RAM? The system does not have a > > noticeable lag when pages are accessed - it is not instantaneous, but > faster > > than my Google apps account. ;-) > > > > Thanks! > > > > Mark > > > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:54 AM, kitepilot@kitepilot.com < > > kitepilot@kitepilot.com> wrote: > > > >> Do I need more air? > >> Do I need more FOOD? > >> Do I need MORE BEER!!! > >> > >> Give more, MORE, MOOOREEEE!!!! > >> Gawd, I need more Prozac too... :) > >> > >> You will never have too much memory, or extrapolating to aviation: > >> The only time I have too much fuel is when the airplane is on fire... > ;-) > >> > >> top alone will only hand you part of the picture. > >> Try: > >> free -t > >> Look at the line: > >> -/+ buffers/cache: XXXX > >> > >> Memory is used by buffers that are there only for efficiency, but will > be > >> returned to the system on demand. Sometimes very little used stuff will > go > >> to swap, and adding memory will not really help anything (and it won't > hurt > >> anything either, other than your checkbook) > >> > >> The "-/+ buffers/cache:" line will tell you how much memory the system > is > >> taking because nobody else is using it. > >> YMMV... > >> ET > >> > >> PS: And that "airplane on fire" wisdom is not always true, but works for > >> novice pilots... > >> Or: > >> My job is not to teach how to fly. > >> My job is to help you stay alive while you learn... :) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Mark Phillips writes: > >> > >>> I have a Zope/Plone 2.5 web site running on Debian on a Linode virtual > >> host. > >>> It has grown over the last few years, and now I need to add some more > >> disk > >>> space. The site is for a school newspaper, so from August - June, > >> students > >>> add news articles and photos. > >>> > >>> I was also looking at the output of top, and perhaps I need more RAM as > >>> well? Top shows I have only 5 MB free out of 368 MB of total RAM, but I > >> am > >>> only using 9% of my swap, so perhaps I don't need more RAM. The site > does > >>> not seem slow. > >>> > >>> Tasks: 69 total, 1 running, 68 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie > >>> Cpu(s): 0.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni,100.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, > >>> 0.0%st > >>> Mem: 368836k total, 363364k used, 5472k free, 8316k > buffers > >>> Swap: 524280k total, 46716k used, 477564k free, 67436k cached > >>> > >>> Thanks for any suggestions you may have. > >>> > >>> Mark > >> --------------------------------------------------- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >