Silly question, but if it's a SATA drive, how did you install it on an IDE slot ? _____ From: plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Mark Jarvis Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 12:49 PM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: SATA drive problem Final result: Here's a better statement of what I thought were my problems with the new SATA drive on Linux: Booting into Ubuntu 9.04, Gnome's File Browser showed ghosts of the old channel 0 Master--complete with the labels of the old partitions, and did not show the new drive. When I brought up Gnome's gparted, it saw the new drive just fine--but as sda! I had expected almost anything--except sda. (POST identifies it as Channel 2 Master.) Solutions: I found out that starting at least one major kernel revision ago, drives are enumerated in the order that they are discovered during the boot process. So the SATA drive was the first drive found. Then, when I re-booted after updating my system, Gnome's file browser dropped the ghosts and found the new SATA drive OK, so that problem went away. Problems solved, I learned a few things, and I didn't have to re-install. Except for installing updates and re-booting, I didn't have to do anything to Linux for it to use the SATA drive. Also, apparently I'm not the only person to have found that if sda is also the Setup boot drive, then a linux installation on sdb will alter sda's MBR. I still don't understand all I know on this, but I'm going to continue to be a pragmatist: "If it works, use it." Again, Thanks to all who responded, Mark Jarvis Eric Shubert wrote: So would you care to fill us in a bit? Mark Jarvis wrote: Thanks to all those who have responded. I think that I now have a pretty fair idea of the way Linux today assigns device labels. Also, when I re-booted after updating my system, the file browser dropped the ghosts and found the new SATA drive OK, so that problem went away. Once again, thanks to all who responded. -mj- Mark Jarvis wrote: Up until a couple of days ago, I had 3 EIDE drives and POST reported my hard drives: IDE Channel 0 Master a 120 GB drive IDE Channel 0 Slave a 120 GB drive IDE Channel 1 Master a 160 GB drive IDE Channel 1 Slave a DVD IDE Channel 2 Master None IDE Channel 3 Master None Simplifying things, channel 0 Master has my Windows Installation, Channel 0 Slave my Linux stuff, and Channel 1 Master is a backup/clone of Channel 0 Master. Ubuntu sees the three drives as sda, sdb, and sdc. Monday I picked up a couple of 1.0 TB SATA drives. Starting slowly, I added one to Channel 2. I cloned the Windows drive (Channel 0 Master) to it, pulled the power plug on Channel 0 Master, and changed the boot sequence in Setup. I also changed the label on one of the partitions on the new drive. POST reports: IDE Channel 0 Master None IDE Channel 0 Slave a 120 GB drive IDE Channel 1 Master a 160 GB drive IDE Channel 1 Slave a DVD IDE Channel 2 Master a SATA 1 TB drive IDE Channel 3 Master None Windows works pretty much OK. Booting into Ubuntu 9.04, I was surprised that Gnome's File Browser shows ghosts of the old channel 0 Master--complete with the labels of the old partitions, and does not show the new drive. I brought up Gnome's gparted. It saw the new drive just fine--as sda! I had expected almost anything--except sda. This is not a "real work" Linux installation and besides, /home is in a different partition, so I could just re-install and that would probably fix things, but I'd rather make what's there work correctly. Questions: 1) Why did a SATA drive on Channel 3 show up as sda? 2) How can I kick Gnome's File Browser into dropping the ghosts and showing the contents of the new drive? I guess that all of my admin/reference books are out of date, because I can't find anything in them that helps. The MAN pages would probably help, but I don't know where to start. Any help, pointers to where I can find explanations, etc. will be much appreciated. Thanks, Mark Jarvis ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss