On Thu 30 July 2009 9:32:57 am Joshua Zeidner wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Craig White wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 06:43 -0700, JD Austin wrote: > >> I was waiting to see how long until racism was called :) > >> It is a fact that illegal immigration is costing Az and Ca plenty and > >> pointing that out doesn't make him hate filled or racist. I don't > >> blame them for coming here... If I were them I'd do it too. We need > >> to remove the 'free' incentives that we can no longer afford to > >> provide. They're not the only demographic freeloading services; > >> plenty of Americans game the system (generations!) to get a free ride > >> too. > > > > ---- > > first off, the topic of racism, state budgetary issues have no purpose > > for this list > > > > secondly, this was blatant scapegoating...blaming the economic problems > > on a particular issue - if you are not smart enough to deduce that the > > issues the state is currently facing on budgetary shortfalls has nothing > > to do with undocumented residents then there really isn't any point in a > > debate on any other list as well and it obviously isn't worth debating > > here. There's no reason whatsoever to debate the > > worthiness/unworthiness, the reasons or the issues of Mexicans in this > > country on this list. > > > > I didn't suggest racism...I suggested narrow political commentary being > > offered as fact. > > "I find it offensive in every way that first JMZ linked the racist > article and now you found it worthy to paste." -you, about 3 posts ago > > do you even think about what you're writing? > > btw- I agree with JD. Playing the 'racism' card in typical boomer > fashion only serves to short-circuit a very important debate. We need > to examine our priorities here. Were going to drastically cut > education, even sell off the state senate building instead of cutting > services to non-americans? Hiding behind the ghost of Martin Luther > King is not going to fix the problem. Pretending this is not a > problem may buy us a few years- let me guess... just long enough for > Craig to ride out retirement? There, I just had to take care of something. Okay NOW feel free. -- --- Ryan Rix (623)-826-0051 How should I know if it works? That's what beta testers are for. I only coded it. -- Attributed to Linus Torvalds, somewhere in a posting http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://twitter.com/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonaleash@gmail.com | MSN: phrkonaleash@yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash | Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: PhrkOnLsh@irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#teensonlinux,#plugaz and countless other FOSS channels.