On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: > The List Lurker who occasionally asks for help and is always astounded by > the help he receives...... > > Man, have I been missing a lot by not attending any face to face PLUG > events.....I can bring a box of name tags and we can all stereotype > ourselves....lol....;-) > > Mark > The Nameless One: No matter what he/she never remembers anyone's name or face. > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Scarlett Clark < > scarlett@manonthebench.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 10:50 -0700, Lisa Kachold wrote: >> > After interacting in PLUG events over the last 3 years here, teaching >> > at freegeek.org and running the POWUG for 3 years in Oregon while also >> > after interacting in technology for more than 25 years in the >> > trenches, I have seen a great deal of bad manners, ineffective >> > competition, and behavior that leads anywhere but toward free and open >> > discussion and interaction. >> > >> > I have also observed interaction styles and personality types that >> > save a group with their fun approach, easy going nature and humanism. >> > >> > As you read these you might try not to descend to black and white >> > thinking, but see what each type ultimately provides to the group >> > experience. >> > >> > I am sure some of these basic types everyone will recognize: >> > >> > 1) Mr. OneUpMan: >> > >> > Rather than happily bantering along in information exchange, he powers >> > out to look more Intelligent or rudely talks down to others. This can >> > include a swift change of subject to something not even similar to the >> > issue or subject stream. He can never just "play" with others, and >> > never ever asks a question. He can be so dominating that the whole >> > discussion around him has to be limited to his experience, his >> > training and his viewpoint. >> > >> > 2) Mr. Academic: >> > >> > This person will always fill in extraneous details and add additional >> > information. He is certain that he is the one and only authority. >> > Unfortunately, often this limits others from actually doing their own >> > research (via google or other written documentation). >> > >> > 3) Mr. Gossip: >> > >> > This person, rather than discuss technology, complete lab exercises or >> > listen to others, spends a great deal of time discussing others, local >> > shops, history (skewed by their own resentments and losses or those of >> > their ally fellows). Anything this person overhears in first person >> > singular humanism becomes fodder for their next ten sessions. They >> > generally do not show up at events prepared for and interested in >> > technical viewpoints. They often take "sides" without evaluating the >> > truth from a distance or without determining if it's actually their >> > business. >> > >> > 4) Mr. Serial Processing: >> > >> > This attendee cannot equate and absorb any information that he does >> > not direct. He will take great measures of everyone's time by asking >> > directed questions to one individual about material that was just >> > covered by group discussion or presentation. Often his frustration >> > becomes anger whereupon this person will accuse others of talking down >> > to him. This is common in individuals who are experiencing a B >> > vitamin deficiency (that ultimately can lead to Korsakoff's Psychosis >> > and confabulation) from nutritional issues, but generally due to daily >> > ingesting large amounts of drugs or alcohol or a liver or other health >> > disorder. >> > >> > 5) Mr. Rude Helper: >> > >> > This PLUG attendee will approach someone who they don't know (who >> > usually vastly outspans them in education experience and even >> > employment) and attempt to help by directing them into the wrong >> > direction. This disrepectful approach, while well meaning, is based >> > on an arrogance and grandiocity that is not matched by either their >> > suggestions or their ability. They never ask the person they attach >> > themselves to, if they would like some help or happily attempt to play >> > with them. This is commonly seen by women who are stereotyped and/or >> > dominated and keeps women introverts from interacting in labs and >> > groups. >> > >> > 6) Mr. Did you Know? >> > >> > This person dives happily in and expands any endeavor they are exposed >> > to. Their enthusiam is infectious as they look into and communicate >> > with each head in their circle of hearing, and intiates >> > non-hierarchial happy fulll duplex PLAY. >> > >> > 7) Mr. I Can! >> > >> > This attendee is the one who does all the single tasks that someone >> > needs to do, often without most of the other PLUG people even >> > noticing. He adjusts the video resolution for the overhead for the >> > presentation laptop in a slick teamwork concentric way, without, mind >> > you, any great huge announcement that he is the only one who knows how >> > to do it. If another, like #5 above attempts to step in, he deftly >> > and politely sidesteps the intrusion. >> > >> > 8) Mr. Devils' Advocate Question Man: >> > >> > This person usually asks all the pertinant questions to assist to >> > flesh out a subject for others. It's not that he doesn't know, he >> > just wants to make sure a full discussion of the subject matter has >> > occurred for others. Clueless PLUG people sometimes attempt to take >> > him aside or talk down to him after he has performed these important >> > functions. >> > >> > 9) Mr. Exploitation: >> > >> > This person skews all communications to his (choose one): >> > >> > a) Consulting endeavor >> > b) Security endeavor >> > c) Sales gig >> > d) Training endeavor >> > >> > They exclude (or actually poo-poo use of or) mention of the long list >> > of other FOSS tools, library materials and online test preparation >> > guides. >> > While all PLUG members have a variety of skills, this person fails to >> > interact in the true spirit of free and open source. >> > >> > 10) Mr. Hacker: >> > >> > These people actually sit back and talk nice to you, while actually >> > attempting to gain access or damage to your equipment. They are >> > usually swiftly caught, however they generally show up somewhere else >> > with their ettercap and wicrack. Unfortunately, they are often >> > successful. >> > >> > 11) Mr. Aphasia: >> > >> > They people are so vastly intelligent via written materials and >> > understanding, but cannot communicate or complete in useless stand >> > around and argue verbal sessions (with #1 above). They are focused on >> > doing, and doing very very well. They generally quietly endue all the >> > other annoying types and sit back and take in the information, at some >> > deep level (like all of us) lonely for others like themselves. >> > >> > >> > See yourself here? Have additional types to add? >> > -- >> > (503)754-4452 wiki.obnosis.com >> > scientology.obnosis.com >> > >> > >> Ms shy that so desperately wants to fit in, but afraid of the flames so >> stays in the background. >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- (503)754-4452 wiki.obnosis.com scientology.obnosis.com