Ok, ============================================== There is not /etc/inittab file in Ubuntu because Ubuntu uses /etc/event.d/rc-default file You can fix this problem by editing /etc/event.d/rc-default file First backup file, Code: sudo cp /etc/event.d/rc-default /etc/event.d/rc-default.bakup Open vi /etc/event.d/rc-default Code: sudo vi /etc/event.d/rc-default Find all lines read as - telinit 2 and replace with telinit 3 Code: telinit 3 Reboot the system ============================================== Every time I used either "sudo vi," "sudo gedit" or even forcing my way into "su" did not stop the OS from resetting the telinit back to 2?!?!!? ============================================== But you can simply enter: # init 3 if X is still running: # ps -ef |grep X or # pkill X You should then be able to do whatever you need! ============================================== I logged into root in terminal and the init 3 worked both commands to stop X both caused Ubuntu to auto reboot X argh! I know these commands would work, but when I went to Upstart their wiki was no help in trying to make something stick so I can get into Run Level that does not use X so I can install the driver. ::smacking head in wall :: wont give up without dain bramage, hehehehe Brian