Macintosh with OSX 10.5 is a fine distro, incorporating many of the same Nix-ian tools used by Linux. Built upon a BSD variant, (BSDi, FreeBSD, NetBSD), OSX runs OpenSSH, SAINT, uses sudo, and ettercap, snort, xnu (mac address spoofing) and it also has some real security issues, WAIT, that's not a bug, it's a feature? A great many trojans are available with many personal and unusual slants on the age old virus themes: http://www.securemac.com/ Once again we find people attempting to indulge in apples/oranges biased thinking comparing one distro's security to another. http://pcworld.about.com/news/May232005id120964.htm But just like with Linux, if you are running a Mac OSX on a shared network, you are begging to be pwned. If you surf without trust based controls for Javascript/Java, and use Mail without low level virus controls, you have the intelligence of a ten year old (before the brain can understand and equate risk and consequences). Symantec is one of the best tools; but great many exist (use the Source young Jedi). Obnosis | (503)754-4452 PLUG Linux Security Labs 2nd Saturday Each Month@Noon - 3PM _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover HotmailŪ: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Storage1_042009