Awe... Thank you Lisa, so few of the people I know would ever call me right
brained :)
Usually I am the logical hard a** of the group who insists on real evidence
and analytical though processes.
I suppose this sabbatical is doing me some good after all :)
I will decently check out the GUI tools you suggest, but for now my wife is
calling me over for cake (and no the cake is not a lie ;)
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Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:38 PM
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Subject: RE: looking for db recommendation
Excellent post with good clear direction and suggestions Bishmer Sekaran!
And very interesting descriptive literary first person subjective experience
from Boneal.
Postgres is a very schitzophrenic (and insecure) solution, but very good in
clearly defined roles. Since you are clearly right brained Boneal, get one
of the graphic management tools, like pgmyadmin or psgsql.
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> From: boneal@cornerstonehome.com
> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: RE: looking for db recommendation
> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:25:18 -0700
>
> Perhaps I was unduly harsh on Postgresql.
>
> And while the last time I messed with it was over a half decade past; it
> gave me a headache at the time. I am told my headaches would have gone
away
> if I just did XYZ (which changed depending on who you talked to) like
> setting more restrictive locks. The problem I had was that, to me, things
> like manually setting the locking mode to eliminate intermittent errors of
> old data being returned by queries after newdata was committed by other
> queries is just not intuitive. I would understand releasing these locks
and
> accepting the risk if I needed to resolve some odd conflict immediately
> while working on a real solution, but the other way around? PostgreSQL
just
> felt like a slightly schizophrenic overly needy girlfriend, I suppose if I
> understood her better I would love her but I was unwilling to put in the
> time.
>
> Again, this was a while ago and things change, I should PostgreSQL give it
> another shot.
>
>
>
> Bishmer Sekaran wrote:
> Postgres' difficulty is somewhat overstated. IMO it's easier to get
started
> with postgres than to say, learn mod_perl on Apache or configure sendmail.
> Steps for Mark to switch to postgres:
>
> 1) Acquire and start postgres - Easy in SUSE, they even have a page for
> it: http://en.opensuse.org/Postgresql
>
> 2) Export data from Access (Access->Excel->csv is easiest? Seems like it's
> more convoluted, ie would be faster than Access-> csv since this is M$
we're
> talking about)
>
> 3) Create his new db - Copy the same format as previously, just in ANSI
SQL.
> Probably something like
>
> CREATE TABLE Records (
> Artist text,
> Album text,
> Year integer,
> Genre text,
> Rating integer,
> Lastquality datatype
> );
>
> 4) COPY Records FROM filename WITH CSV;
> See also: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/static/sql-copy.html
>
> Bryan O'Neal wrote:
>> I don't think any one doubts postgresqls ability to run his db
>> effectively, instead we doubt its ease of use. MS Access it is not ;)
>>
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