It's obscurity (and perhaps security) by location? Microsoft doesn't generally promote security cons? They create them: http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/160861.asp And try to skew the results by funding studies: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/217538_msftstudy25.html Bill Gates might very well be remembered very sadly for failing to take the lead in security systems 10 years ago, instead feeding "altruistic pursuits"? With that level of assets available, one has to really question some of the business decisions? Just like American Automakers and Finance Brokers? I doubt anything earthshaking will come from the Convention... Perhaps Dubai will get the best of us all? http://wiki.obnosis.com | http://hackfest.obnosis.com | http://nuke.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 > Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:08:49 -0700 > Subject: Re: Hackfest Security: Dubai Hackinthebox Convention Anyone? > From: jjzeidner@gmail.com > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > no doubt. I dont think Ill be going either. Last time I checked, I > wasn't allowed to step foot in that country. > > -jmz > > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Sharkscott wrote: > > I'm saying that they way they treat women. I will not be going. My Mother > > was treated bad enough for being single in the mid 1970's midwest. God help > > me being the son of a single woman there.. > > > > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > >> > >> you don't like Muslims? > >> > >> -jmz > >> > >> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Sharkscott wrote: > >> > Nice, Heck of a night life they must have, oh wait, their MUSLIM!!!!! > >> > Guess > >> > I won't be going then...lol > >> > > >> > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Joshua Zeidner > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> this article says: "Females should make an effort not to wear too > >> >> figure hugging clothes and to cover up their flesh". > >> >> > >> >> http://www.grapeshisha.com/UAE-National-clothing.html > >> >> > >> >> -jmz > >> >> > >> >> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Sharkscott > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > No, I think as long as your in pants and a shirt your good, I am just > >> >> > wondering how much plane tickets to Dubai would set me back... > >> >> > > >> >> > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Joshua Zeidner > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I wonder if women have special clothing requirements for this > >> >> >> conference, like in many Arab countries. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -jmz > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Lisa Kachold > >> >> >> > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > http://conference.hitb.org/hitbsecconf2009dubai/ > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Note that Microsoft is a Convention sponsor? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Also note that HackintheBox is a first reporter for Microsoft > >> >> >> > security > >> >> >> > issues: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > http://www.hackinthebox.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=29609&mode=thread > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > www.Obnosis.com | http://wiki.obnosis.com | > >> >> >> > http://hackfest.obnosis.com > >> >> >> > | > >> >> >> > http://nuke.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 > >> >> >> > PLUG HACKFESTS - http://uat.edu Second Saturday of Each Month Noon > >> >> >> > - > >> >> >> > 3PM > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > ________________________________ > >> >> >> > Windows Live™: E-mail. 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